The Empire Builders Podcast

By: Stephen Semple and David Young
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  • Reverse engineering the success of established business empires.
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  • #181: Rebecca Cassel – Part 2 – Partnerships Take Work

    #181: Rebecca Cassel – Part 2 – Partnerships Take Work
    Nov 27 2024
    Rebecca and Lon build out a coaching empire that takes full use of the manuals and techniques they developed building successful home service companies. Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders Podcast, teaching business owners the not-so-secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom and pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector and storyteller. I'm Stephen's sidekick and business partner Dave Young. Before we get into today's episode, a word from our sponsor, which is, well, it's us, but we're highlighting ads we've written and produced for our clients. So here's one of those. [Seaside Plumbing Ad] Rick: Told you, Brian. Brian: Told me what? Rick: This is part two of last week's episode. Brian: Oh, yeah. And it was getting good. Rick: If you missed it, go back and listen to part one first. Take it away, fellas. Rebecca Cassel: Yeah, so, Lon, as I said, he was my business partner, and it was funny. I would say, "That sometimes you really like your business partners and sometimes you don't." And I think Lon and I went through the, hey, I don't like you very much, but we really respect each other. We had very different strengths and weaknesses. I am very operational, strategic, and accounting. He was sales and marketing and relational. And so the combination was pretty fierce. And he called me one day and said, "Hey, we're going to start an organization. I just got invited to join a group of investors in St. Louis to start an organization that will help more contractors." And he said, "We're going to actually branch out of just doing HVAC. I think we're going to do plumbing and maybe eventually electrical." I go, "Wow, that's really exciting." He goes, "I'm moving to St. Louis, so I'll keep in touch with what's going on." I was living in North Carolina, and he was living in Illinois at the time. And I thought, wow, what a cool thing. I go, "Well, if I can be of help, obviously I'm here doing it, writing operations manuals or procedures, or obviously I'd love to be a client. So when you get this all up and going, that'll be exciting." About three months later, he called me, and he said, "Hey, I think you should be a part of this." And I was like, "What do you mean? I'm running an HVAC business in a completely different state." And again, before all the technology where you could do everything remote, he goes, "I think what we're going to do is going to really change the industry dramatically, and I know you would want to be a part of that." And he said, "Why don't you find a way to develop our comfort advisor into the general manager, and let's get this going to where maybe you could come be a part of this operationally." Stephen Semple: And which business was this, Rebecca? Rebecca Cassel: This was Success Group International. Stephen Semple: This was Success Group, okay. Rebecca Cassel: Yes. At the time we had an umbrella name called BenVest, but it's what became, we started Plumber Success first, but it was Success Group International. And so I went in and talked with some of the other founders about what we're going to do, the CEO, Jim Abrams and Lon was already employed, and I got to meet Patty Myers, who is their VP of Finance, and I ended up being the fourth employee. We started in St. Louis and said, "Hey, we're going to build an organization that helps home services be successful. We're going to impact lives by helping these business owners become more successful." Stephen Semple: So I want to step back and cover just a couple of other things. It's amazing you had the opportunity to work with Jim so closely, with Jim Abrams. And anybody in the home services or the marketing space knows that name, like a famous, famous guy. So you had a chance to learn a lot from him, but you also had a chance to learn a lot from another marketing person who has a lot of fame in the home services space...
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    28 mins
  • #180: Rebecca Cassel – Part 1 – Helping Contractors Succeed

    #180: Rebecca Cassel – Part 1 – Helping Contractors Succeed
    Nov 20 2024
    Rebecca meets Lon and they build an empire of home services companies that lead to the best Contractor Coaching Program. Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders Podcast, teaching business owners the not-so-secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom and pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector, and storyteller. I'm Stephen's sidekick in business partner, Dave Young. Before we get into today's episode, a word from our sponsor, which is, well, it's us, but we're highlighting ads we've written and produced for our clients. So, here's one of those. [ASAP Commercial Doors Ad] Stephen Semple: Hey, it's Stephen Semple here with the Empire Builders Podcast. And we've given Dave Young the week off. So, he's sitting back and chilling and relaxing and drinking drinks by some pool somewhere, I'm hoping. I'm really excited. I have Rebecca Cassel with me. And her story, when I first heard it was just one of these ones where I'm, "How is Rebecca, especially in the home services space for what she's accomplished, not a household name?" And for full disclosure of the business that Rebecca has now, which is certain path that does this amazing training for people in the home services space is a customer of ours. I've got a team of people working with Rebecca and their group to promote their business more. But one of the things that was exciting is when we got together for the day and you started sharing some of these stories, I was like, "This is an incredible journey that you've gone on, let's face it, especially as a woman in the home services space." So, I guess what I want to do is go right back to that beginning when you first got exposed to the home services space. And please, don't forget to tell the story about the wearing of the booties. That's one of my favorite ones. Rebecca Cassel: Great. Thank you. Stephen. I'm excited to be here. I can't believe it's been 25 years of CertainPath. And obviously, we used to be Success Group International. And my story is unique. I graduated with an accounting degree, SAT for the CPA exam, thought I was going to go into public accounting and realized really quickly that I didn't like it and was looking for opportunity to use my financial degree to help small businesses. And I actually answered an ad. And this is okay, so '90s, this is how you found a job back in the '90s is a newspaper and there's this amazing newspaper ad. And it did tell me exactly what the company was. But it said, "If you want to use your accounting degree or your financial experience, if you want to help implement systems and processes in a small business and help them operationally expand, this is the job for you." Such a cool written ad. I decided to pick up the phone and schedule an interview. And at the end of the phone call, of course, they give you an address and there was no way to Google it back then. And so, she's like, "Turn here by the McDonald's and then go down." So, I was like, "Okay. Great." And I really don't remember if in that call I heard the name of the company because I was so excited that I got the interview. So, I pull up for the interview and I quickly realized maybe I'm not in the right spot because on the sign it had a name of a heating and air conditioning company. I was like, "Well, surely, this is not the company that put the ad in the paper." Because I just thought appearance of the building, the sign that was cracked, the weeds in the parking lot, did not screen professional, professional. But I kind of thought, "Well, I got to go find out if I'm in the right place or not. And if I'm here, so it is." So, I walked in. And you got to remember back then, this is when women were pantyhose and I was in my black patent heels and my gray suit, totally looking super corporate. And I walk into this little ... Stephen Semple: Did you have shoulder pads in the ... Rebecca Cassel: Yes.
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    27 mins
  • #179: Banana Ball – Frictionless Baseball

    #179: Banana Ball – Frictionless Baseball
    Nov 13 2024
    The Banana's asked one fundamental question to revive a defunct minor ball team. What do fans hate about going to a game? Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders podcast, teaching business owners the not-so-secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom and pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector, and storyteller. I'm Stephen's sidekick in business partner Dave Young. Before we get into today's episode, a word from our sponsor, which is, well, it's us, but we're highlighting ads we've written and produced for our clients, so here's one of those. [ASAP Commercial Doors Ad] Dave Young: Welcome back to the Empire Builders podcast. Dave Young here alongside Stephen Semple, and as you know, this is the time when we usually have Stephen whisper the topic of the podcast into my ear. But today I'm turning the table, Stephen. Stephen Semple: You are? Dave Young: Uh-huh. We're going to talk about one that I'm sort of interested in right now. Stephen Semple: Yeah, and I'm excited. Dave Young: I did tell you what it was. I mean, honestly, I will admit I told you what it was before. Stephen Semple: Well, we had a conversation last time I was in Austin and you mentioned this business, and I started doing a little bit of looking into it and I thought, "Wow, we should talk about this." But since you had already had a lot of knowledge on it, I was like, "Dave, we should talk about this." Dave Young: I mean, cool, huh? Stephen Semple: Yeah, Dave Young: It's really kind of interesting. Stephen Semple: So let everybody know what we're talking about. Dave Young: We're talking about baseball, sort of. Sort of baseball. It's a new form of baseball called Banana Ball. Stephen Semple: Just before you had told me about it, I'd heard about someone else had mentioned it to me and I thought it was pretty fascinating. But give us a background on Banana Ball. Dave Young: So this guy named Jesse Cole and his wife buy this summer baseball league team in Savannah, Georgia that had gone belly up, I think before maybe they were called the Sand Gnats or something like that. Stephen Semple: Okay, so basically it was a defunct, bankrupt out of business junior baseball team. Dave Young: I think the kind of league that plays summer times with college kids. Stephen Semple: Right. Dave Young: So it came with the stadium, right? Stephen Semple: Okay. Dave Young: Whoever owns the franchise gets use of the stadium. So they spent a couple of years just trying to figure out how to make baseball more interesting. Stephen Semple: Right. Dave Young: Here you've got this weird little baseball team that nobody's been able to make succeed. Stephen Semple: Okay, before you go any deeper, Dave, how sold out are they? Dave Young: Dude for the 2025 season, they've got more than a million people on their waiting list. Stephen Semple: On their waiting list. Dave Young: These are people that are saying, "Please, please let me buy a ticket." Stephen Semple: Right, right. Think about this. Wouldn't you love to have a baseball team that not only is sold out, you have a million people on the waiting list hoping for tickets. And this is not a major league team. Dave Young: This is in Savannah, Georgia in a stadium that's just basically, it is not even fully surrounding the field. Stephen Semple: I just wanted people to understand the success this team is having. Dave Young: Here's the really cool thing. Their success is not based on wins and losses. Stephen Semple: Right. Dave Young: It's based on entertaining people. This guy understands customer experience to a deep, deep level. And what he was looking at, and he's a baseball player, he coached. Baseball flows in his blood, but he looked at it and he is like,
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