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#19: This week, Liz and Bryce The Third dive into a very special and personal conversation about music, something that has always been close to Bryce's heart. For Bryce, music is an art form for self-expression, and it has helped him build a relationship with himself. When he got sober, Bryce thought he might never be able to experience music again — let alone create it. However, in recovery Bryce has created his own home within music, listening and creating the way he wants to.

Liz also touches on her own relationship with music, noting how much like Bryce, music allows her to express her emotions in a safe, cathartic way — freeing the feelings that feel 'stuck.' Tune in to hear more about Bryce's journey, from his early inspiration by Eminem to rediscovering his love for music with his community in rehab, and now to sharing his artwork with the world.

Check out Bryce's latest EP For Colder Weather on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/3sqlorxvKsuszLUP6EHuMg.

Learn more about Bryce's music on his website: www.brycethethird.com/music.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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#18: Chris Clemens (he/him) is a born-and-raised resident of Rochester, New York, who got sober just one month before his 17th birthday in May 1996. For many years in early recovery Chris followed a practice of total abstinence. But nearly 30 years later, his approach to recovery has evolved. Today, Chris is a passionate advocate for non-alcoholic beers and mocktails. While he acknowledges this path isn't for everyone, he's created nonROCaholic, a blog dedicated to helping his local community discover non-alcoholic options.

In this episode, Bryce The Third and Liz sit down with Chris to discuss his journey — from getting sober at a young age to how sobriety stuck over the years. We also explore his motivation behind creating nonROCaholic, the power of "trying it on" for easing into behavioral changes, and the rise of sober curious people and mocktails in today's culture.

Check out www.nonrocaholic.com for your guide on where to find tasty mocktails, nonalcoholic beer, juices, sodas, and more in The Finger Lakes Region of New York. You can find them on Instagram @nonrocaholic and Facebook at Nonrocaholic.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#17: Amanda Uphoff (she/her) is a woman living in long-term recovery from anorexia and alcohol use disorder. She serves as the Chief of Staff at Recovery.com, is a certified yoga teacher, and mentors women in early recovery. Amanda believes in the possibility of recovery for everyone and is deeply committed to reaching out her hand to those still struggling, helping them find their own path. She lives in Madison, Wisconsin, where she's the proud mother of two amazing humans.

In the episode, Bryce The Third and Liz sit down with Amanda to discuss her personal recovery journey, how her relationship with yoga has evolved, and how her practice has helped her work through her healing. They dive into topics such as parenthood, the power of finding community—even if it’s just one person—and the other tools that have helped Amanda peel back her masks to live more authentically.

Check out Recovery.com to help find the best path to recovery through their comprehensive network of treatment providers worldwide. You can find them on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/company/recoverydotcom.

To learn more about Amanda, visit her LinkedIn page at www.linkedin.com/in/amandauphoff.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#16: Shimi is the founder and executive director of HoliHub, a Denver-based non-profit dedicated to holistic recovery. As an adolescent, Shimi fell into a struggle with addiction that took over a decade of his life. His addiction caused him to lose his community and fracture his relationships with his family and himself. He dropped out of high school, lost a scholarship to a prestigious law school, and hit rock bottom — yet his story didn’t end there.

With determination and the support of his family, Shimi turned his life around, choosing to embark on a journey of sobriety and recovery. Now, he lives a fulfilling life dedicated to helping others navigate their own recovery journeys. Through HoliHub, he combines his personal experience, passion for holistic healing, and his deep commitment to be of service.

Tune in to hear Shimi's powerful story as we discuss his path to recovery, how he maintains balance, and what led him to create HoliHub to help others heal.

To learn more about HoliHub check out their website at www.holihub.org and find them on Instagram @holihub.life and Facebook at Holihub.

Check out the HoliHub Space on The Phoenix Mobile App at https://links.thephoenix.org/K3Ph7rEE8Pb.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not

Join the Phoenix community & sign up for classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#15: Melissa Pagan (she/her) is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) with a master’s degree in Marriage and Family Therapy. She specializes in a range of therapeutic approaches, with an expertise in behavioral health, PTSD care, and treating substance use disorders alongside co-occurring mental health conditions.

Having witnessed firsthand the vital role of family support and the need for family work in the therapeutic processes, Melissa has devoted her career to helping families navigate the complexities of addiction recovery. In this episode, we dive into Melissa's personal journey as a supporter to her loved ones. We discuss her approach to teaching kids vulnerability, the importance of setting and maintaining boundaries, and how she takes care of herself so she can show up fully for others.

Visit https://mountainside.com/ to learn more and check out their resources page at https://mountainside.com/resources.

Find Mountainside Treatment on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/mountainsidetreatment/ and Instagram at @mountainside.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix
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Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#14: This week Liz and Bryce The Third are joined by Rob Baumgartner (he/him), a long-time team member, volunteer, and staff member with The Phoenix. Rob first joined The Phoenix in 2007, when the newly-formed organization had about 160 members. Today, he serves as the Regional Manager for the Mountains & Plains states.

For Rob, his climbing journey and recovery journey are deeply intertwined. In both, people play an essential role — whether it's challenging ourselves to take on what feels unachievable, cultivating trust with ourselves and our partners, or empowering others to choose the right path for them. Rob shares how these two paths are intrinsically linked, emphasizing the power of choice, community, and the importance of supporting others. Tune into the episode to learn more about Rob, as we discuss his recovery journey and more.

Check out Season 1 Episode 12 with Billy & Liz and hear from the perspective of a supporter: https://open.spotify.com/episode/33WPOCQ4jSofuWqELfRWPC?si=P0glXv7MR9euKt3Kmsgqsg.

Check out the limited holiday collection at ThePhoenix.org/shop.

Click here to join the Rise Recover Live Podcast Space to keep up with all things Podcast: https://links.thephoenix.org/uy4urLJKjNb.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help. You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute

Join the Phoenix community & sign up for classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#13: This week, Liz and Bryce The Third reflect on the evolution of their relationships with the holidays and check in on how they're both feeling this season.

For Liz, this holiday season feels different from years past—stirring up both joy and grief, and reminding her that recovery is an ongoing, non-linear journey. While intense feelings and memories have surfaced, she’s learning to hold both the joy and the grief, allowing herself to experience them safely and work through them.

Bryce shares how his relationship with holidays has shifted through his own recovery, and how he's reached a place where he shows up for celebrations how he wants to. Through cultivating a relationship with himself, he's learned how to navigate these big holidays, which in turn strengthened his relationships with his friends and family.

Tune in to hear the conversation between Bryce The Third and Liz. And a reminder from your hosts this holiday season: your feelings are valid, we relate to you, and we are so glad you're here.

Check out Bryce's music on Bandcamp: https://brycethethird.bandcamp.com/music. You can also learn more at https://www.brycethethird.com/music.

Check out the limited holiday collection at ThePhoenix.org/shop.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix

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Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

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#12: This week, Liz is joined by Kevin Beaufrand (he/him), found of Soberflex and a person in recovery. Kevin shares his story of active addiction and his journey to find sobriety and recovery. From the age of thirteen to thirty-one years old, active addiction took hold of Kevin's life. In May 2019, Kevin decided enough was enough. He made the pivotal decision to change his life and chose to become 'obsessed' with wellness and health. After walking down this path to recovery, Kevin has made it his North Star help other folks do the same.

Check out the conversation to learn more about Kevin as we discuss his story and more, including:

• Confronting the 'saboteur' voice in his mind that tempted him to stray from his sobriety — and how he learned to control and live with it.
• How he found his North Star and the drive to live a holistic healthy lifestyle that sustains his sobriety.
• Why after a year into sobriety he was tempted to try drinking in moderation, and how his community supported him to stay sober.
• The mission behind Soberflex, and the special meaning behind the organization's name.

Join the Soberflex community at https://www.skool.com/soberflexfree/about and check out their YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@soberflexofficial.

Join the Soberflex Space in The Phoenix Mobile App: ‎ https://links.thephoenix.org/N5r0U3NAnPb.

Find Kevin on Instagram at @kevinbeaufrand and on Facebook at Kevin Beaufrand.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line. Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line. Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery. Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only. This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement by The Phoenix
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Join the Phoenix community & sign up for classes with a single click by downloading The Phoenix App! In the app, you can connect with Liz, Bryce and other listeners in The Rise Recover Live Podcast Group. Let us know what you thought about today's episode, and what you'd like to hear in future shows! We can't wait to chat with you there.

Learn more about The Phoenix, sign up for classes, or become a volunteer at https://thephoenix.org/ .

Find us on Instagram at @riserecoverlive