What if everything you thought you knew about podcast ROI was wrong? Reed Hansen launched his podcast expecting new leads to pour in from his growing audience. Instead, he got zero external leads—but somehow created his highest-performing marketing channel. In this eye-opening conversation, Reed reveals how his "failed" podcast transformed relationships with existing clients rather than attracting new ones. Discover why treating podcasting as a networking exercise beats chasing download numbers, and learn the surprising way Reed's clients finally recognised his true expertise after months of ignored newsletters.

• Why Reed's podcast generated zero external leads but became his top marketing channel
• How existing clients suddenly started buying additional services after hearing his podcast
• The "networking exercise" approach that beats traditional podcast metrics
• How to integrate podcast content into newsletters and social media for maximum impact
• Why video snippets and authentic conversations build authority that emails can't match
• The mindset shift that transforms podcasting from lead generation tool to relationship builder
• Real-world results from helping clients replicate this unconventional approach

Guest Links:

• Market Surge: https://marketsurge.io/
• Reed's email: reed@marketsurge.io

Podjunction Ecosystem:

• https://podjunction.com/

Think starting a podcast is just talking into a microphone? Dave Jackson from the School of Podcasting reveals why that mindset kills most business podcasts before they even get started. With over 20 years of podcasting experience and thousands of successful launches under his belt, Dave shares the brutal truths about what separates podcasters who stick around from those who fade away. From the hidden time costs that shock new podcasters to the monetisation mistakes that keep creators broke, this conversation will change how you think about podcasting as a business tool. If you're considering a podcast for your business or wondering why yours isn't growing, Dave's insights could save you months of frustration.

Guest Links:

• School of Podcasting: https://schoolofpodcasting.com/
• Dave's FREE podcasting checklist: https://schoolofpodcasting.com/podcast-launch-checklist/

Podjunction Ecosystem:

• Podjunction Home: https://podjunction.com/

Scott McInnis spills the tea on how his podcast, Building Better Cultures, has been a game-changer for his business. He shares a hilarious moment when a potential speaking gig came directly from a listener who fell in love with his show. It’s all about keeping it real and human, with Scott emphasizing that people, not organizations, are the heart of change. We dive into the nitty-gritty of how prepping guests can make them shine brighter than a freshly polished trophy. Plus, Scott's got some juicy insights on how he’s evolved his approach to podcasting over the years, making it not just a fun side gig but a powerful tool for connecting and growing his brand. Buckle up, because this episode is packed with laughs, wisdom, and a sprinkle of biscuit-eating charm!

Links referenced in this episode:

• iscot
• inspiringchange.ie

Want help creating your own podcast? Visit us at podjunction.com or reach out to Sadaf directly on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sadafbeynon/