Episodios

  • Let's Erase Everything You Ever Learned About Working Out

    Let's Erase Everything You Ever Learned About Working Out
    Jun 9 2025

    In this episode, Jessica and Jenna Doak share their experiences with exercise addiction, the impact of diet culture, and their transformation towards a more joyful and intuitive approach to fitness. They dig into the societal pressures surrounding body image, the significance of holistic health, and the need for joy in movement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the social determinants of health and how they affect our well-being—zooming out from movement as the only way to take care of your body, as diet culture could have us believe.

    * Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/

    * Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/

    Meet Our Guest, Jenna

    Jenna Doak is a body-positive personal trainer and the founder of Body Positive Fitness, a judgment-free fitness studio and online coaching community. With over 20 years in the industry, Jenna is on a mission to dismantle toxic fitness and diet culture, creating spaces where people of all sizes, abilities, and backgrounds can move their bodies with joy, without the pressure of weight loss. Through their in-person and virtual training programs, social media presence, and educational content, she’s redefining what it means to be strong, capable, and confident.

    * www.bodypositivefitness.ca

    * https://www.instagram.com/bodypositivefitness_/

    * TikTok: @bodypositivefitness

    * YouTube: Body Positive Fitness

    * www.bodypositivefitness.ca/newsletter

    Watch The Conversation About Rethinking Working Out



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  • The Big Picture of Body Liberation and the Small Shifts That Matter

    The Big Picture of Body Liberation and the Small Shifts That Matter
    Jun 2 2025

    In this episode, Jessica and Chrissy dig into the complexities of body image, diet culture, and the concept of body liberation. They share about personal experiences with diet culture, the societal pressures surrounding body image, and the importance of understanding health beyond individual control. Chrissy emphasizes the need for collective liberation and the systemic issues that affect marginalized bodies, while also addressing the significance of body autonomy and the challenges of navigating societal expectations regarding body size and health.

    * Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/

    * Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/

    Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/

    Meet Our Guest, Chrissy

    Chrissy King is a writer, speaker, educator, and former strength coach with a passion for creating a diverse and inclusive wellness industry. She is also the author of The Body Liberation Project. Through her work, Chrissy empowers individuals to stop shrinking, start taking up space, and use their energy to create their specific magic in the world. She also writes for a variety of platforms including Shape, Health, SELF, and PopSugar, among others. With degrees in social justice and sociology from Marquette University, Chrissy merges her passion for social just

    ice with her passion for wellness to inspire people to create spaces that allow individuals from all backgrounds to feel seen, welcomed, affirmed, and celebrated.

    * https://chrissyking.com/book/

    * Chrissyking.com

    * https://www.instagram.com/iamchrissyking/

    * https://www.tiktok.com/@iamchrissyking

    Watch The Conversation About Body Liberation



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  • Body + Baby: Ditching Food Rules in Pregnancy and Postpartum

    Body + Baby: Ditching Food Rules in Pregnancy and Postpartum
    May 8 2025
    As our first mini-series, we’re making this available to all subscribers. However, all future mini-series (2-3 each year) are available to paid subscribers only! If you want to get more special content like this, make sure you upgrade as a paying Substack subscriber for $5/month or $50/year.In our final mini-series episode, Jessica, Becca, and Kayla discuss the complexities of hunger, eating, and food rules during pregnancy and postpartum. They emphasize the importance of nourishing oneself, the normalization of cravings, and the need for support in managing nutrition.The conversation also touches on the impact of diet culture on food choices and the significance of satisfaction in eating (because food is more than fuel). Bottom line: you need to eat, friend—and you’ll leave with some practical strategies for combatting the little voice in your mind that says otherwise.* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Guests: BeccaForward movement requires modern ways of thinking.Which is why Becca, combined her clinical training in psychotherapy models with holistic tools and spiritual practices to create her Forward Model of Change. With a commitment to show up in her humanness so you can too, Becca offers you permission to shift your patterns and propel yourself forward.Becca is a Clinical Social Worker, Mental Health Therapist and Coach for wholeness seekers, trapped achievers, karmic breakers, family shakers, and emotional feelers, and the founder of Forward Healing, where we offer modern tools + personalized models for Therapy and After-Therapy.* https://www.instagram.com/_beccapost/* https://www.instagram.com/fh_therapy/* https://www.instagram.com/fh_aftertherapy/* https://forwardhealing.co/Meet Our Guests: KaylaKayla Jessop is an Anti-Diet registered dietitian, eating disorder specialist, and approved supervisor. With extensive experience working in various levels of care including PHP, IOP and outpatient groups, she specializes in helping individuals of all ages regain peace with food and body. She will never tell you to deprive yourself or ban certain foods from your life. Instead, her mission is to help you recognize diet culture and help you rediscover your body's inner wisdom about how to truly nourish yourself.Kayla is passionate about utilizing the latest research to help her clients’ recovery and additionally teaching more clinicians the same. Kayla co-facilitated NYC’s first RO-DBT (Radically Open Dialectical Behavior Therapy) class and is continuing that work in Utah. In June 2023, Kayla was invited to present at the first annual RO DBT Conference in Chicago on the success of utilizing this modality in eating disorder recovery.She has had the opportunity to curate an amazing team of dietitians who are continuing to develop and use RO DBT in practice as well. Each member of the team brings a unique skillset to the practice and to their clients.* https://www.kaylajessopnutrition.com/* https://www.instagram.com/kaylajessopnutrition/* https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083365267617 https://www.tiktok.com/@kaylajnutrition* https://www.youtube.com/@Kaylajessopnutrition* https://www.ro4rd.com/Watch The Conversation About Food Rules and Hunger in Pregnancy and Postpartum This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe
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  • Body + Baby: The BS of Bounce-Back Culture and Embracing Your Body

    Body + Baby: The BS of Bounce-Back Culture and Embracing Your Body
    May 7 2025
    As our first mini-series, we’re making this available to all subscribers. However, all future mini-series (2-3 each year) are available to paid subscribers only! If you want to get more special content like this, make sure you upgrade as a paying Substack subscriber for $5/month or $50/year.In this mini-series episode, Jess, Kayla, and Becca chat about the societal pressures of bounce-back culture, personal experiences with body changes, and the impact of social media and diet culture during this (already challenging) season of life.We dig into the importance of reframing movement and exercise postpartum, cultural perspectives on postpartum care, and practical strategies for embracing your body as it changes. (Which is natural and normal!) If you’re feeling stressed or anxious about “bouncing back,” or want to prepare for it, this episode is for you.* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Guests: BeccaForward movement requires modern ways of thinking.Which is why Becca, combined her clinical training in psychotherapy models with holistic tools and spiritual practices to create her Forward Model of Change. With a commitment to show up in her humanness so you can too, Becca offers you permission to shift your patterns and propel yourself forward.Becca is a Clinical Social Worker, Mental Health Therapist and Coach for wholeness seekers, trapped achievers, karmic breakers, family shakers, and emotional feelers, and the founder of Forward Healing, where we offer modern tools + personalized models for Therapy and After-Therapy.* https://www.instagram.com/_beccapost/* https://www.instagram.com/fh_therapy/* https://www.instagram.com/fh_aftertherapy/* https://forwardhealing.co/Meet Our Guests: KaylaKayla Jessop is an Anti-Diet registered dietitian, eating disorder specialist, and approved supervisor. With extensive experience working in various levels of care including PHP, IOP and outpatient groups, she specializes in helping individuals of all ages regain peace with food and body. She will never tell you to deprive yourself or ban certain foods from your life. Instead, her mission is to help you recognize diet culture and help you rediscover your body's inner wisdom about how to truly nourish yourself.Kayla is passionate about utilizing the latest research to help her clients’ recovery and additionally teaching more clinicians the same. Kayla co-facilitated NYC’s first RO-DBT (Radically Open Dialectical Behavior Therapy) class and is continuing that work in Utah. In June 2023, Kayla was invited to present at the first annual RO DBT Conference in Chicago on the success of utilizing this modality in eating disorder recovery.She has had the opportunity to curate an amazing team of dietitians who are continuing to develop and use RO DBT in practice as well. Each member of the team brings a unique skillset to the practice and to their clients.* https://www.kaylajessopnutrition.com/* https://www.instagram.com/kaylajessopnutrition/* https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083365267617 https://www.tiktok.com/@kaylajnutrition* https://www.youtube.com/@Kaylajessopnutrition* https://www.ro4rd.com/Watch The Conversation About Bounce-Back Culture and Embracing Your Postpartum Body This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe
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  • Body + Baby: How to Navigate Pregnancy When Your Body Feels Like a Stranger

    Body + Baby: How to Navigate Pregnancy When Your Body Feels Like a Stranger
    May 6 2025
    As our first mini-series, we’re making this available to all subscribers. However, all future mini-series (2-3 each year) are available to paid subscribers only! If you want to get more special content like this, make sure you upgrade as a paying Substack subscriber for $5/month or $50/year.In this mini-series episode, Jessica, Becca, and Kayla dig into the challenges of navigating body image during pregnancy, particularly for those with a history of disordered eating or those who experience body and food anxieties during this season of life.They share personal experiences, the emotional toll of body changes, and practical strategies for managing these feelings. The conversation emphasizes the importance of allowing ourselves to grieve the changes, trust the body's needs, and reject cultural pressures around body image during pregnancy. (UGH, there’s so much of it!)* Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/* Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/Subscribe on Substack to get all of our podcast episodes plus more fresh content each week! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/Meet Our Guests: BeccaForward movement requires modern ways of thinking.Which is why Becca, combined her clinical training in psychotherapy models with holistic tools and spiritual practices to create her Forward Model of Change. With a commitment to show up in her humanness so you can too, Becca offers you permission to shift your patterns and propel yourself forward.Becca is a Clinical Social Worker, Mental Health Therapist and Coach for wholeness seekers, trapped achievers, karmic breakers, family shakers, and emotional feelers, and the founder of Forward Healing, where we offer modern tools + personalized models for Therapy and After-Therapy.* https://www.instagram.com/_beccapost/* https://www.instagram.com/fh_therapy/* https://www.instagram.com/fh_aftertherapy/* https://forwardhealing.co/Meet Our Guests: KaylaKayla Jessop is an Anti-Diet registered dietitian, eating disorder specialist, and approved supervisor. With extensive experience working in various levels of care including PHP, IOP and outpatient groups, she specializes in helping individuals of all ages regain peace with food and body. She will never tell you to deprive yourself or ban certain foods from your life. Instead, her mission is to help you recognize diet culture and help you rediscover your body's inner wisdom about how to truly nourish yourself.Kayla is passionate about utilizing the latest research to help her clients’ recovery and additionally teaching more clinicians the same. Kayla co-facilitated NYC’s first RO-DBT (Radically Open Dialectical Behavior Therapy) class and is continuing that work in Utah. In June 2023, Kayla was invited to present at the first annual RO DBT Conference in Chicago on the success of utilizing this modality in eating disorder recovery.She has had the opportunity to curate an amazing team of dietitians who are continuing to develop and use RO DBT in practice as well. Each member of the team brings a unique skillset to the practice and to their clients.* https://www.kaylajessopnutrition.com/* https://www.instagram.com/kaylajessopnutrition/* https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083365267617 https://www.tiktok.com/@kaylajnutrition* https://www.youtube.com/@Kaylajessopnutrition* https://www.ro4rd.com/Watch The Conversation About Navigating Your Pregnancy Body on Substack! https://nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/ This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nopethatsnotnormal.substack.com/subscribe
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  • Update: Paid Subscription Option is here! 🪩

    Update: Paid Subscription Option is here! 🪩
    May 1 2025

    Hey friend,

    We’ve been building this corner of the internet with care, curiosity, and a deep commitment to honest, thoughtful conversations. And today, we’re taking a big (and exciting!) step forward: we’re launching paid subscriptions on our Substack!

    Let’s be real—creating content that pushes back on the diet culture BS, uplifts marginalized voices, and goes beyond surface-level body love? That takes time, energy, and a whole lot of heart. We love doing it. And we want to do more of it—with your support.

    So what changes, and what stays the same? Let’s break it down, friends.

    Upgrade by EOD today and get 20% off an annual subscription!

    🔓 What Free Subscribers Will Still Get

    We’re not about gatekeeping the good stuff. Our free tier will continue to include:

    * Mid-Month Link Round-Up: Curated with intention—these are the articles, podcasts, essays, and more that we can’t stop thinking about.

    * Guest Interviews (In-Season): Conversations with people who are challenging norms and reimagining what’s possible. (Season 3 is coming in June!)

    * First Article of Every Month: One full-length article to kick off each month, delivered straight to your inbox.

    You’ll always have access to meaningful content that sparks thought and invites reflection. But if you’re craving more? We got you.

    🔐 What Paid Subscribers Get

    The paid tier is where we really get to dig in and expand. Here’s what you’ll unlock for $5/month or $50/year:

    * All Articles Every Month (4–5 total): You’ll get every deep dive, every hot take, every essay we publish.

    * Bonus Episodes (During Season): We’ll drop a juicy bonus episode each week on top of our regular guest interviews. The formats for these shift and change with each season but one thing that never changes: they are ALWAYS value-packed. (Of course, that’s the only way we do it around here.)

    * Exclusive Mini-Series (2–3 Between Seasons): These are authentic, real, and only for mini-series that allow paid subscribers to deep dive into topics that we want to shed more light on.

    * Everything in the Free Tier, of course.

    This paid tier is for the ones who show up every week, send the posts to friends, and tell us, “I wish there were more of this.” Now there is!

    P.S. Upgrade by EOD today and get 20% off an annual subscription!

    Why Go Paid?

    Because independent media matters. Because nuance, care, and accountability are worth funding. Because creators (hi, it’s us!) should be able to do this work sustainably.

    Your subscription allows us to invest more time, more depth and more creativity into the content we know you value.

    We’re not here to put pressure on anyone. If free is where you’re at, we’re so glad you’re here. And if you’re ready to support the next chapter and unlock all the extras—we’re beyond grateful.

    We can’t wait to keep building this space with you.

    With love and big energy,Jess Thiefels, Creator and Host

    P.S. Upgrade by EOD today and get 20% off an annual subscription!



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  • Body Changes and Body Shame

    Body Changes and Body Shame
    Apr 14 2025

    In this episode, Jessica and Damali Fraser chat about the complex relationship between body image, food beliefs, and identity. They explore Damali's personal journey of self-discovery, healing from injuries, and the impact of societal expectations on body perception, particularly as a Black woman. The conversation highlights the importance of community, grief, and practical strategies for navigating body changes and fostering self-acceptance.

    * Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/

    * Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/

    Meet Our Guest, Damali

    Meet Coach Damali, pronouns she/her. Damali is a compassionate Kettlebell Expert, author, speaker, fitness / nutrition coach and founder of Lift off Strength & Wellness. Damali is known for her unapologetic opposition to diet culture in the kettlebell community and as a passionate educator who will help you learn to train with kettlebells safely. Through her Inclusive Kettlebell Coach course and certification programs, you learn to teach kettlebells from an intersectional lens that's size-inclusive, trauma-informed, judgment-free, and for every BODY (emphasis on the body because humanity has always had body diversity).

    * https://liftoffstrength.ca/

    * https://liftoffstrength.ca/kettlebell-coach-training

    * https://liftoffstrength.ca/inclusive-kettlebell-coach-certification

    * https://www.instagram.com/damali.fraiser

    Watch The Conversation About Body Changes and Body Shame



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  • Nope, Let's Rewire That: Body Gratitude Scan

    Nope, Let's Rewire That: Body Gratitude Scan
    Apr 10 2025

    In this mini-episode, Jessica and Shannon chat about the practice of body gratitude, emphasizing the importance of body awareness and appreciation. They explore how tuning into our bodies can foster self-compassion and healing, moving away from critical body image thoughts.

    * Connect with Nope on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicathiefels/

    * Connect with your host, Jessica, on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nopethatsnotnormal/

    Meet Our Guest, Shannon

    Shannon Ricks, LMFT, owns the group practice, Modern Eve, which offers therapy sessions to anyone located in Utah or Arizona. The practice focuses on helping people heal their relationships to food and their bodies by treating the underlying complex PTSD with IFS. She also has a Body Image Liberation course that is available to anyone in the world. And for therapists interested in this work, Modern Eve offers a therapist training program covering IFS, ACT, and the treatment of Eating Disorders.

    * Download a free recording of me guiding a body gratitude scan so you can do it on your own time: www.moderneve.org/bodyscan

    * www.ModernEve.org

    * https://www.instagram.com/modern.eve.inc/

    * https://moderneve.teachable.com/p/body-image-liberation

    Watch The Conversation About the Body Gratitude Scan



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