Recorded at the 45th annual Mobile Air Climate Systems Conference (MACS 2025) in Orlando, Florida, this episode dives into the evolving world of thermal management in vehicles. Our panel discusses the shift from traditional air conditioning to a more advanced approach, driven by the growing complexity of modern vehicles, especially EVs. They explore why maintaining optimal temperatures for batteries, electric motors, and other components is just as critical as passenger comfort. The conversation also covers alternative refrigerants, particularly blends, as a way to boost efficiency, reduce environmental impact, and adapt to changing battery technologies. With these advancements, the need for technician training and industry adaptation is greater than ever. Our experts emphasize the importance of collaboration across the industry to ensure a smooth transition and deliver effective solutions for both OEMs and aftermarket service providers.

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• MACS Training Event & Trade Show: https://macsmobileairclimate.org/
• National Automotive Service Task Force (NASTF): https://wp.nastf.org/
• Koura: https://www.kouraglobal.com/
• Honeywell: https://www.honeywell.com/us/en
• Introduction and Sponsors (00:00:00)
• Evolution of Thermal Management (00:02:28)
• Consultative Role of Shop Owners (00:02:10)
• Rise of Thermal Management Specialists (00:03:08)
• Importance of Battery Temperature Control (00:03:46)
• Impact of Electric Compressors (00:05:45)
• Training on Thermal Management (00:12:19)
• Future of Refrigerants (00:09:52)
• Concerns with Flammable Refrigerants (00:11:04)
• Thermal Management in Electric Vehicles (00:14:04)
• Training Demand for Electric Vehicle Systems (00:15:26)
• Battery Chemistry and Future Developments (00:17:02)
• Shifting Priorities in Funding (00:18:27)
• Changing Thermal Management Needs (00:18:57)
• Service Recommendations for Blends (00:19:18)
• Collaboration in Industry (00:19:58)
• New Components in AC Systems (00:20:50)
• Complexity of Thermal Management Systems (00:22:15)
• Career Opportunities in Automotive Technology (00:23:06)
• Investing in New Refrigerant Machines (00:24:30)
• Consumer Benefits of Blend Refrigerants (00:25:05)
• Leakage Characteristics of Blends (00:26:14)
• Future of Refrigerant Machines...