Episodes

  • The Growing Opportunity For Athletes And Brands
    Feb 21 2025

    Patrick Crawford has had a legendary run in the outdoor industry - launching Freeskier magazine, followed by one of the original athlete social agencies, Inkwell. During his time leading Inkwell, he worked with the top outdoor athletes in the world - as well as the brands that supported them - to launch massive projects, the Free Solo film among many others on the list. Find out what Patrick has to say about the state of Athlete and Brand social - both its history as well as its future.

    Show Notes:

    Patrick Crawford: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickrcrawford/

    Cadence Media Strategy: https://www.cadencemediastrategy.com/

    Zero Draft: https://zerodraft.substack.com/

    Freeskier: https://freeskier.com/

    Patrick - Origin Outside Interview: https://www.originoutside.com/insights/influencers-vs-content-creators-whos-winning-in-25

    Scott Galloway: https://profgmedia.com/

    Zero Click Internet: https://www.techspot.com/article/2908-the-zero-click-internet/

    Free Solo Film: https://films.nationalgeographic.com/free-solo

    BPC - Brand, Product, Content:

    Invisible Rulers (Book): https://amzn.to/3X4e0w9

    Everybody Lies (Book): https://amzn.to/41hhJc8

    DuoLingo Owl Killed: https://www.npr.org/2025/02/13/nx-s1-5295597/duolingo-owl-mascot-death

    Billy Oppenheimer Newsletter: https://billyoppenheimer.com/february-9-2025/

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    1 hr and 17 mins
  • How I Burned Down My Business
    Feb 18 2025

    Martina Brimmer founded Swift Industries 17 years ago in the basement of a punk house. Over those years, she held on to a rollercoaster of ups and downs as the business grew, adapted and survived to meet market demand. After the softening of the cycling industry post-pandemic, Martina had to make some big decisions for the survival of the business, and this incredibly transparent conversation is an honest recountain of the lessons learned and insights gained.

    Show Notes:

    Swift Industries: https://builtbyswift.com/

    Swift Industries Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swiftindustries/

    Revelate Designs: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/

    Goldman Sachs Small Business Program: https://www.goldmansachs.com/community-impact/10000-small-businesses/

    Jason Goodman: https://www.instagram.com/swift_getlost_academy/

    Get Lost Adventure Series: https://builtbyswift.com/blogs/the-swift-industries-blog/sign-up-for-swift-industries-get-lost-academy

    Swift Social Ride: https://builtbyswift.com/pages/swift-social-ride

    Stoked Spoke Adventure Series: https://gearhouse.eventcalendarapp.com/u/49431/358272

    Swift Campout: https://builtbyswift.com/blogs/the-swift-industries-blog/the-campout-navigators-color-the-valley

    Founded Outdoors: https://foundedoutdoors.com/

    BPC: Brand, Product, Content:

    Topo Designs: https://topodesigns.com/

    DB Clay DIY Wallet: https://www.dbclay.com/dtwk/p/black

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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • Playing The YouTube Long Game With Jeff Pelletier
    Feb 14 2025

    Jeff Pelletier is an established filmmaker, content creator and successful agency owner - among many other things. He sits down with Aaron to compare notes on the YouTube journey and provides insights and actionable advice for other aspiring content creators looking to build a community.

    Show Notes:

    Jeff Pelletier: https://www.youtube.com/@JeffPelletier

    Jeff's Website: https://jeffpelletier.com/

    BaseTwo Media: https://videoforbusiness.ca/

    Billy Yang: https://www.billyyang.com/

    Crunchlabs: https://www.crunchlabs.com/

    Beau Miles: https://www.youtube.com/beaumiles

    BPC - Brand, Product, Content:

    Jenny Tough: https://www.youtube.com/@JennyTough_

    Jenny's Book - Solo: https://amzn.to/4jRbcfl

    DJI Osmo Pocket 3: https://amzn.to/4hQyMap

    DJI Lav Microphones: https://amzn.to/3EuXO0t

    Snickers Protein Bars: https://amzn.to/3EqkO0s

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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • The Past, Present, and Future of Wild Rye
    Feb 11 2025

    Cassie Abel is the founder and CEO of Wild Rye, a brand that celebrates the duality of athletes with gear for both snow and mountain biking. In this podcast, we dive into the history of the brand as she launched with a co-founder, looked for signals that they were on the right track, and rode the exhausting rollercoaster of manufacturing, marketing and everything in between as the brand experienced growth. Find out how a Craiglist post became an inflection point for the brand - and where the brand is headed next!

    Show Notes:

    Wild Rye: https://wild-rye.com/

    Cassie Abel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassie-abel-5853787/

    Women-Led Wednesday: https://womenledwednesday.com/

    How I Built This - Sara Blakely: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spanx-sara-blakely/id1150510297?i=1000396023160

    How I Built This - Whitney Wolfe: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bumble-whitney-wolfe-2017/id1150510297?i=1000436036734

    Tory Burch Foundation: https://www.toryburchfoundation.org/

    Title Nine: https://www.titlenine.com/

    BPC - Brand, Product, Content:

    Salomon QST Skis: https://www.salomon.com/en-us/shop/sports/alpine-skiing/skis/freeride.html

    Eliot Jackson - "Ode To LA": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDthZQI7G4c

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    55 mins
  • Exploring Media Business Models With Simon Freeman
    Feb 7 2025

    Founder and publisher of Like The Wind magazine, Simon Freeman, joins the podcast to talk about media models and the different approaches that are available to explore for media operators.

    Show Notes:

    Like The Wind: https://www.likethewindmagazine.com/

    Mario Fraioli: https://themorningshakeout.com/

    Surfers Journal: https://www.surfersjournal.com/

    Jonathan Levitt Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4GWhpYsx48

    The Rebooting: https://www.therebooting.com/

    Wirecutter: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/

    Matt Trappe's Article: https://substack.com/home/post/p-155444935

    Red Bull Content Pool: https://www.redbullcontentpool.com/

    BPC - Brand, Product, Content:

    Sponsor Magnet (Book): https://amzn.to/4hFkxoT

    The Purple Runner (Book): https://amzn.to/3EoBBkI

    American Football: https://www.nfl.com/

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    1 hr and 24 mins
  • What Business Are You Building?
    Feb 4 2025

    Reflecting on the recent pod with the co-founders of Skratch, Dylan and Aaron take a closer look at their approach to running their own businesses. Leadership, profit versus impact, scaling versus staying small, funding and business models. Maybe most important - what time horizon are we using to make all these decisions - are we truly playing the infinite game? Show Notes:

    Freetrail: https://www.freetrail.com

    Super Rider: https://www.youtube.com/@SuperRiderTV

    Gary Keller "The One Thing" (Book): https://amzn.to/4hCpBdy

    RXR Sports: https://www.rxrsports.com/

    Voicing Change: https://www.voicingchange.media/#home

    Job Of The Week: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/director-of-partnerships-at-voicing-change-media-4128241311/

    Rich Roll x Steve Magnus Podcast: https://www.richroll.com/podcast/steve-magness-887/

    BPC - Brand, Product, Content:

    The Heart Speaks (Book): https://amzn.to/4jD33et

    Chipotle x Strava Challenge: https://citychallenge.chipotle.com/

    The Battle For Burritos: https://runningmagazine.ca/the-scene/arizona-ultrarunners-battle-in-ridiculous-strava-challenge/

    Jamil Coury Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1055184

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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • Why Skratch Is Not For Sale
    Jan 31 2025

    Skratch won our award for "Brand Of The Year" in 2024, and the main reason was because we respected their approach to playing the infinite game: making decisions rooted in long term stability. So many brands in their position would angle for acquisition and an exit strategy, but that is not on their radar. The discipline and vision that it takes to stay true to that ethos is evident in this conversation with co-founders Allen Lim and Ian MacGregor. Show Notes:

    Skratch: https://skratchlabs.com

    2024 Year In Review (Blog): https://www.skratchlabs.com/blogs/life-skills/2024-year-in-review

    Vern Harnish - Scaling Up: https://amzn.to/4jN5VWq

    McGuckin Hardware: https://www.mcguckin.com/

    Zingerman's Guide: https://amzn.to/4azJrnv

    The Infinite Game: https://amzn.to/42B52dq

    Christina Chase - MIT Sports Lab: https://sportslab.mit.edu/

    Peter Kim - Applied Exercise Science: https://www.colorado.edu/iphy/research

    Skratch in Paris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyPGaQHvF6c

    Skratch Cafe: https://www.skratchlabs.com/pages/cafe

    Chef Biju Thomas: https://www.instagram.com/bijuthechef/

    BPC: Brand, Product, Content

    Ian - Integrating Ski Areas: https://coloradosun.com/2024/11/26/nederland-vying-to-buy-eldora/

    Allen - Bosch E-Bikes: https://www.bosch-ebike.com/us/ebikes

    Aaron - Gawx x Digital Spaghetti: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDAqyQIaUPY

    Dylan - Aaron Rogers "Enigma": https://www.netflix.com/title/81757010

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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • The Mindset We're Bringing Into 2025
    Jan 28 2025

    Dylan and Aaron reconnect to share the different approaches they are taking toward success in the outdoor industry in 2025 - digging into goals, frameworks and vision (and then some). They also riff on the new team launched by Kate Courtney (She Sends Racing) and why it matters a lot more than just the typical factory sponsorship announcement.

    Show Notes:

    Kate Courtney: She Sends Racing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ptuCHv_adE

    Alex Honnold Foundation: https://www.honnoldfoundation.org/

    She Sends Foundation: https://www.shesends.it/

    Kilian's Foundation: https://www.kilianjornetfoundation.org/

    Be Good Foundation: https://www.thebegoodfoundation.org/

    Protect Our Winters: https://protectourwinters.org/

    James Jackson - Mantle Mindset: https://www.instagram.com/mantlemindset/

    Atomic Habits: https://protectourwinters.org/

    Entrepreneur Operating System: https://www.eosworldwide.com/

    Aaron's Cold Brew Setup: https://amzn.to/4jIo9bA

    Alpine Start: https://alpinestartfoods.com/

    BPC - Brand, Product, Content:

    DB Clay: Begin Again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpMCoBUEQ2Q

    Freetrail: Begin Again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgUoVvMB2ns

    Never Second - C30: https://never2.com/products/c30-energy-gel-12ct-60ml

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    1 hr and 5 mins