• What changes with Myles Garrett and the Browns after he refuses to negotiate an extension?
    Feb 28 2025
    The Browns and Myles Garrett have reached a potential inflection point in their standoff, with Garrett and his camp not interested in negotiating an extension. It’s another twist in the saga between the two sides. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the latest on the Garrett vs. the Browns situation on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine. They talk about what this means and if this is what could cause the Browns to decide to trade Garrett. They also talk about what could have happened between the two sides and the role Klutch Sports plays in all of this. They also talk about the team building impact of trading Garrett and if it would change their view on how the Browns approach this offseason. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    30 mins
  • Why did the Browns grade so poorly in NFLPA survey?
    Feb 27 2025
    The Browns — and Kevin Stefanski — did not fare well on the NFLPA’s 2025 report card. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine by talking about why Stefanski and the Browns graded so poorly, what they can and can’t understand and what the Browns should do about it. First, they spend some time on Kevin Stefanski backing up GM Andrew Berry on hanging on to Myles Garrett after his trade request. Then they get into Deshaun Watson rehabbing in Cleveland and what it says about Watson and the Browns and how this will play out. They wrap up the podcast by getting into Stefanski’s glowing comments about this year’s quarterback draft class. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    30 mins
  • Browns GM Andrew Berry isn’t budging on Myles Garrett’s trade request, so now what?
    Feb 26 2025
    Browns GM Andrew Berry spoke on Tuesday for the first time since Myles Garrett went public with his trade request and, unsurprisingly, Berry held his ground in regards to the request. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss what Berry had to say about Garrett and more on their Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine. They also talk about Berry acknowledging that running back Nick Chubb will hit free agency and tryied to pick through the crumbs of what he said to see if he gave any hints about the team’s free agency or draft plans. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    29 mins
  • Could the Browns really get in on the Matthew Stafford sweepstakes?
    Feb 24 2025
    The Browns are confident that if they get quarterback figured out, they can start winning again, so when a quarterback like Matthew Stafford might be available, it’s incumbent on the Browns to inquire. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe took a break from scrambling to get ready to leave for the NFL Scouting Combine on Monday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast to talk about the Browns and Stafford and if the Browns really should get aggressive in going after Stafford and if they could actually land him. They also talk about the release of safety Juan Thornhill and what’s next at the position and who needs to step up. Lastly, they discuss Shedeur Sanders not throwing at the Combine and whether they expect Cam Ward to do the same and why it does — or doesn’t — matter. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    26 mins
  • Wading through pre-Combine rumors about Myles Garrett and Browns QB plans
    Feb 21 2025
    The Browns and Myles Garrett remain at a standstill as the NFL Combine starts next week. It’s one of the flashpoints in this ordeal as the event brings GMs and coaches together in one place. In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the ongoing situation surrounding Garrett, including potential trade rumors and contract negotiations. They delve into the financial implications of trading Garrett, the value he brings to the team and the Browns' draft strategy, particularly regarding quarterback prospects. Among the highlights: Garrett’s situation is complex. The Browns have control over Garrett’s future due to his contract. Andrew Berry is likely to slow play the situation with Garrett. The value of a player like Garrett is difficult to quantify in terms of wins. It’s essential to question the motives behind leaked information during the Combine. Time stamps (approximate) 00:00 Introduction and Garrett’s Situation 05:40 Financial Implications of Trading Miles Garrett 15:06 Assessing the Value of Garrett 20:16 Quarterback Decisions and Draft Strategies 30:51 Rumors and Speculations Ahead of the Draft Listen using the player below. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    41 mins
  • What does the future hold for Nick Chubb and other key Browns veterans?
    Feb 20 2025
    Browns cornerback Greg Newsome II wants to be in Cleveland long-term, even with free agency looming after this season. He’ll have a chance to make his case in 2025, but his role is still up in the air. The Browns will have to make decisions sooner on some other players who have been around a while — while they wait on the decision of their longest-tenured player about his future. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look to the future on a number of Browns free agents on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast after they discuss Newsome’s future with the team. They talk about Jedrick Wills Jr., Nick Chubb, Joel Bitonio and Jameis Winston and whether they will be around for a little while longer or if their time in a Browns uniform is over. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    38 mins
  • What if the Browns pass on a quarterback at No. 2 in the NFL Draft?
    Feb 18 2025
    The Browns will go on the clock early in Round of the 2025 NFL Draft and it won't take long to know what they think of the top of this quarterback class. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through what could happen on Tuesday's edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by discussing Cam Ward's comments about teams passing on him regretting it. Then they get into two Browns-only mock drafts, one Ashley put up on Tuesday and another Dan put up on Saturday. They went in opposite directions at quarterback and edge rusher and they discuss their reasoning. What would the reaction be if the Browns passed on a quarterback? How would they solve the position if they don't do at No. 2 overall? Who are some of their veteran options? They get into all of it on this podcast. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    37 mins
  • Will the Browns draft multiple quarterbacks in 2025? Hey, Mary Kay!
    Feb 17 2025
    The Browns will certainly take a quarterback in the 2025 NFL Draft and could very well take one at No. 2 overall. Should they take more than one quarterback? It’s one of the questions Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Would they take more than one quarterback in the draft? Which player currently on the roster could break out in 2025? Do the Browns need to prioritize running back this offseason given the direction the offense appears headed? They answer those questions and more in the latest podcast. Want to become a Football Insider subscriber? Get more info here. Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    45 mins