Ever wonder what it really takes to go from the Canadian Armed Forces to becoming an OHL referee? This week, I sit down with my friend Mat to talk about his journey from Military Police officer to calling the shots on the ice in one of Canada’s top hockey leagues. We dig into the nitty-gritty of joining the military, the behind-the-scenes process of getting on as an OHL ref, and all the lessons he’s picked up along the way.

Mat’s learned to “get really good at the basics” whenever life feels overwhelming, and he’s big on reframing setbacks by asking, “What can I learn?” instead of “What could go wrong?” It’s a mindset that’s fueled him through those “peaks and valleys” we all face. If you’re looking for inspiration, a new perspective on tackling obstacles, or just a good story about chasing your goals—even when they don’t look like anyone else’s—this episode is for you. Set aside some time for this hour-long conversation and find out how Mat keeps pushing forward, no matter what comes his way.

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