Robert E. Lee and Me
A Southerner's Reckoning with the Myth of the Lost Cause
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"The narrator’s skill as an educator is evident in this production. Seidule's varied tone and pace keep listeners engaged while he describes historical events in detail." (Booklist)
This program is read by the author.
In a forceful but humane narrative, former soldier and head of the West Point history department Ty Seidule's Robert E. Lee and Me challenges the myths and lies of the Confederate legacy - and explores why some of this country’s oldest wounds have never healed.
Ty Seidule grew up revering Robert E. Lee. From his southern childhood to his service in the US Army, every part of his life reinforced the Lost Cause myth: that Lee was the greatest man who ever lived, and that the Confederates were underdogs who lost the Civil War with honor. Now, as a retired brigadier general and Professor Emeritus of History at West Point, his view has radically changed. From a soldier, a scholar, and a southerner, Ty Seidule believes that American history demands a reckoning.
In a unique blend of history and reflection, Seidule deconstructs the truth about the Confederacy - that its undisputed primary goal was the subjugation and enslavement of Black Americans - and directly challenges the idea of honoring those who labored to preserve that system and committed treason in their failed attempt to achieve it. Through the arc of Seidule’s own life, as well as the culture that formed him, he seeks a path to understanding why the facts of the Civil War have remained buried beneath layers of myth and even outright lies - and how they embody a cultural gulf that separates millions of Americans to this day.
Part history lecture, part meditation on the Civil War and its fallout, and part memoir, Robert E. Lee and Me challenges the deeply-held legends and myths of the Confederacy - and provides a surprising interpretation of essential truths that our country still has a difficult time articulating and accepting.
A Macmillan Audio production from St. Martin's Press
"Perhaps the best attribute of this fine book is the author’s honesty. It’s difficult to imagine a more timely book than Robert E. Lee and Me. At this pivotal moment, when we are debating some of the most painful aspects of our history, Seidule’s unsparing assessment of the Lost Cause provides an indispensable contribution to the discussion." (Washington Post)
"In this fine book Ty Seidule scorches us with the truth and rivets us with his fierce sense of moral urgency. I can't think of a better book to enrich and invigorate our national discussion about race and memory and the troubled legacy of Robert E. Lee and the Confederacy." (New York Times bestselling author of Alexander Hamilton)
"A beautiful, often searing meditation on race, history, and the American narrative. Evocative and provocative, Robert E. Lee and Me is honest, wry, and utterly engaging." (Rick Atkinson, Pulitzer Prize-winning author of The British are Coming)
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- By Josh Berthume on 06-19-21
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Ida B. the Queen
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Ida B. Wells committed herself to the needs of those who did not have power. In the eyes of the FBI, this made her a “dangerous negro agitator”. In the annals of history, it makes her an icon. Ida B. the Queen tells the awe-inspiring story of a pioneering woman who was often overlooked and underestimated - a woman who refused to exit a train car meant for White passengers; a woman brought to light the horrors of lynching in America; a woman who cofounded the NAACP.
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Race and Reunion
- The Civil War in American Memory
- By: David W. Blight
- Narrated by: David Colacci
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How we remember matters
- By Adam Shields on 04-03-19
By: David W. Blight
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The Wars of Reconstruction
- The Brief, Violent History of America's Most Progressive Era
- By: Douglas R. Egerton
- Narrated by: Eric Jason Martin
- Length: 16 hrs and 4 mins
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A groundbreaking new history, telling the stories of hundreds of African-American activists and officeholders who risked their lives for equality - in the face of murderous violence - in the years after the Civil War. By 1870, just five years after Confederate surrender and 13 years after the Dred Scott decision ruled blacks ineligible for citizenship, Congressional action had ended slavery and given the vote to black men. That same year, Hiram Revels and Joseph Hayne Rainey became the first African-American U.S. senator and congressman respectively.
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Atrocities
- By Tad Davis on 07-05-18
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- How the Civil War Created a Nation
- By: David Goldfield
- Narrated by: David Drummond
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In this spellbinding new history, David Goldfield offers the first major new interpretation of the Civil War era since James M. McPherson's Battle Cry of Freedom. Where past scholars have interpreted the war as a triumph of freedom, Goldfield sees it as America's greatest failure: the result of a breakdown caused by the infusion of evangelical religion into the public sphere.
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Great and indepth
- By Kindle Customer on 06-02-14
By: David Goldfield
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Freedom's Dominion
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- By: Jefferson Cowie
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American freedom is typically associated with the fight of the oppressed for a better world. But for centuries, whenever the federal government intervened on behalf of nonwhite people, many white Americans fought back in the name of freedom—their freedom to dominate others. In Freedom’s Dominion, historian Jefferson Cowie traces this complex saga by focusing on a quintessentially American place: Barbour County, Alabama, the ancestral home of political firebrand George Wallace.
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Very easily read and I learned a lot
- By Kev All on 02-05-23
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The President and the Freedom Fighter
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- By: Brian Kilmeade
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The New York Times best-selling author of George Washington's Secret Six and Thomas Jefferson and the Tripoli Pirates turns to two other heroes of the nation: Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglass. In The President and the Freedom Fighter, Brian Kilmeade tells the little-known story of how two American heroes moved from strong disagreement to friendship, and in the process changed the entire course of history.
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Great Story and Research
- By Marla O'Halloran on 11-06-21
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The New York Times: Disunion
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- By: Ted Widmer - editor
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A major new collection of modern commentary - from scholars, historians, and Civil War buffs - on the significant events of the Civil War, culled from The New York Times' popular Disunion online journal.
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Excellent audiobook! Love this format!
- By BVerité on 03-17-15
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Life of a Klansman
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Life of a Klansman tells the story of a warrior in the Ku Klux Klan, a carpenter in Louisiana who took up the cause of fanatical racism during the years after the Civil War. Edward Ball, a descendant of the Klansman, paints a portrait of his family’s anti-Black militant that is part history, part memoir rich in personal detail.
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Thought Provoking, But . . .
- By William G. Stuart on 09-01-20
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Big Wonderful Thing
- By: Stephen Harrigan
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The story of Texas is the story of struggle and triumph in a land of extremes. It is a story of drought and flood, invasion and war, boom and bust, and of the myriad peoples who, over centuries of conflict, gave rise to a place that has helped shape the identity of the United States and the destiny of the world.
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Guidall is in top form with very good material
- By Elizabeth on 12-22-19
By: Stephen Harrigan
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Searching for Black Confederates
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- By: Kevin M. Levin
- Narrated by: JD Jackson
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More than 150 years after the end of the Civil War, scores of websites, articles, and organizations repeat claims that anywhere between 500 and 100,000 free and enslaved African Americans fought willingly as soldiers in the Confederate army. But as Kevin M. Levin argues in this carefully researched book, such claims would have shocked anyone who served in the army during the war itself. Levin explains that imprecise contemporary accounts, poorly understood primary-source material, and other misrepresentations helped fuel the rise of the black Confederate myth.
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modern political commentary
- By Rob Warren on 11-05-19
By: Kevin M. Levin
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Born Fighting
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- By: Jim Webb
- Narrated by: Allan Robertson
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The Scots-Irish were 40 percent of the Revolutionary War army; they included the pioneers Daniel Boone, Lewis and Clark, Davy Crockett, and Sam Houston; they were the writers Edgar Allan Poe and Mark Twain; and they have given America numerous great military leaders, including Stonewall Jackson, Ulysses S. Grant, Audie Murphy, and George S. Patton, as well as most of the soldiers of the Confederacy (only five percent of whom owned slaves, and who fought against what they viewed as an invading army).
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Every politician should read this
- By Bette Grace on 02-08-19
By: Jim Webb
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- 02-03-21
Brilliant. Should be required reading at W&L and elsewhere
A brilliant, thoughtful, well written and narrated reckoning of the lost cause mythology. As a southern native and alum of Washington and Lee, this book made me think in new ways about my roots and culture. It teaches about about some amazing black Americans and lays bare the horrific racial oppression and white washing practiced for centuries. This should be required reading in southern schools - especially Washington and Lee.
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- Joseph W. Murray, II
- 06-19-23
I am so glad that this author taught my son!
I am the proud parent of 3 West Pointers. After reading this book, I now know why my second eldest son and namesake made History his college major at West Point: BG Ty Seidule! He is a Master Educator, Scholar, & Military Leader. My Son (Class of 2011) actually recommended the book to me and I just got off the phone thanking him. After 20+ years of US Army military service, I have rarely come upon such an insightful history book presentation filled with so many hard learned truths; written for both today and tomorrow.
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- Bill
- 06-02-21
Eye Opening and Well Done
As a boy of the south and a graduate of W&L this book opened my eyes and I am very grateful for the research and writing of this history. Well done!
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- Robert S.
- 06-01-22
leaving the lost cause
a great biopic of leaving behind the lost cause myth and respecting history. the author thoroughly debunks the lost cause narrative from the perspective of a true southern gentleman.
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- Randy
- 02-26-21
Must Read
Most of us grew up influenced by the propaganda of the “lost cause”. This book is the story of one person learning the truth and trying to make things right. His military background and Ph.D in history give the author the credibility to address white supremacy as few others can.
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- 08-26-21
Finding his Truth
Great historical references mixed with a soul searching journey! The author does a great job of putting himself in the cross hairs as well.
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- Richard Dine
- 12-08-22
An important book
Covers a topic important to the future of our country in a sensitive and intelligent way.
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- Grant
- 07-02-23
Compelling Argument
For every person that questions base renaming, Ty makes a compelling argument for why we need to do it citing facts. A must read for anyone that says the military is “woke.”
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- Kate
- 09-29-23
A must read for every American!
Every American can see some element of their indoctrination in this narrative. We all need to realize that our beliefs are not always the result of nature, more often than not they are built by social norms around us during our formative years.
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- Brack Stovall
- 10-09-23
Required Reading
A long needed historical correction. Ty Seidule delivers a narrative that will knock your socks off. This Virginia native will never look at the mythology crammed down our throats by those grooming our youthful minds to be White Supremacists in adulthood the same way. Thank you Professor Seidule.
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