In this episode, your hosts dive into the dynamic between virgin vampires—newcomers to the swinger lifestyle—and elders who've been sipping from the chalice for a while. Drawing on their own experiences as both fledglings and now seasoned swingers, they explore what makes first encounters with newbies so rewarding, and how they guide fresh blood through those early steps with care, consent, and confidence—creating a safe, sexy, and memorable experience.

They also unpack why some elder vamps avoid playing with newcomers, diving into the assumptions, frustrations, and mismatched expectations that can surface on both sides. The hosts discuss common couple dynamics, especially how men often view the lifestyle through a black-and-white lens, while women tend to navigate in nuanced shades of gray.

Whether you're freshly turned or long-immortal in the scene, this episode offers real talk and valuable insight into the evolving dance between curiosity, experience, and connection.

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(00:00:00) Virgin Vampires

(00:01:35) Seasoned Vampires

(00:04:12) Trust is built over time

(00:05:28) The internal conflict

(00:06:23) Being ushered into the LS by seasoned Vampires

(00:07:45) Beliefs vs logical decisions

(00:08:49) We’ll take you under our wing

(00:10:44) Why we call swingers vampires

(00:13:31) Newbies are fun!

(00:16:09) Swinging is like going to Disneyland

(00:17:31) My ticket into heaven

(00:18:26) Benefits of playing with newbies

(00:21:13) Full dance cards

(00:23:55) Why we love virgin Vampires

(00:26:51) Virgin Vampires can change the dynamic

(00:30:27) Expect your first experiences to feel uncomfortable

(00:32:45) Some vintage Vamps steer clear of virgin Vampires

(00:34:54) Some of our best friendships are with virgin Vampires

(00:40:04) Playing with seasoned Vampires infrequently

(00:41:48) Playing with vintage vs virgin Vampires

(00:43:25) Reading the queues from your partner and play partners

(00:48:59) Navigating those ‘firsts’

(00:52:33) How men and women view ‘rules’ or ‘boundaries’ differently

(00:57:30) The ‘rules’ are different for men and women

(00:59:25) Traps and landmines

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In this candid and laugh-filled episode, hosts Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into one of the more infamous phrases in the lifestyle world: 'Ten and Two,' commonly used to describe couples with a significant gap in perceived attractiveness. Your Two Plus Two crew unpacks the term with honesty, humor, and a healthy dose of self-awareness.

They explore the subjective nature of these so-called 'ratings,' acknowledging that everyone’s scale is different—and that beauty (and sexual chemistry) is subjective. The discussion then shifts to the more complex and sometimes divisive concept of 'taking one for the team.' With honesty and differing perspectives, your hosts engage in a thoughtful debate about the dynamics and emotional realities behind the decision to play—especially when attraction isn’t mutual on both sides.

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(00:00:00) A lifestyle term…Ten and Two

(00:01:33) They have to be at least a five

(00:03:49) ‘Ratings’ are subjective

(00:05:33) Peacocking strategy

(00:06:19) We’re here for sex

(00:09:08) Veto rights

(00:11:21) Be honest in your communication

(00:12:37) Ten and Two boggles the mind!

(00:13:17) Primal Sexual Rating

(00:15:46) How do Tens and Twos get together?

(00:18:11) Compensating factors or traits

(00:19:22) Opportunity and context play a role

(00:20:32) Cowboys…need we say more?

(00:22:41) Not our first choice, but we had fun

(00:25:37) Attraction is initially superficial

(00:27:04) Connecting with people on your ‘level’

(00:28:31) It’s easier to avoid conversations than get into awkward ones

(00:29:17) Fuck off, David Beckham!

(00:32:29) Staying open can pay dividends

(00:33:42) We typically don’t consider anyone below a five

(00:35:00) Easier to create experiences on LS vacations

(00:39:17) Some things aren’t possible with just your partner

(00:41:41) What does ‘taking one for the team’ mean?

(00:46:58) Have we taken one for the team

(00:47:50) If you’re not excited about a play experience…don’t do it!

(00:53:12) Fucking, sex and making love

(00:54:27) Finally! Zack & Josie explain ‘The Smudge’

(00:56:33) A game within the game

(00:57:43) I’d love to be your home run!

(00:59:40) I’m Brittany Bitch

(01:00:08) Zackology

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In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into the deliciously complicated world of picking play partners. Each share their personal preferences—what turns them on, what gives them pause, and how they navigate attraction within a shared dynamic.

The conversation gets flirty as they tease one another and share pet peeves and guilty pleasures, all while unpacking the deeper stuff: confidence, insecurities, and how to handle rejection without letting it bruise the ego.

It’s not just about individual desire—it’s about finding that mutual yes, where chemistry clicks for everyone involved. With laughter, vulnerability, and a few playful jabs, this episode is a candid look into how four people approach one of the most crucial parts of the lifestyle: choosing who to play with.

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(00:00:00) Having preferences is totally fine

(00:03:24) Attraction can grow through conversation and interaction

(00:04:34) You can’t be attracted to a personality from across the room

(00:05:50) The ‘fuckable’ switch and the scale system

(00:07:14) Variety, the spice of life!

(00:09:07) Throw me around, love Brittany!

(00:10:10) Interest ebbs and flows

(00:14:57) Accents!

(00:16:31) Bellies, blow jobs and eye contact

(00:17:58) Okay for larger people, but not trim, athletic people?

(00:19:09) Choosing play partners as a couple

(00:22:12) Confidence in choosing someone for your partner

(00:24:25) Is the lifestyle judgment free?

(00:25:36) Handling insecurity, tension, and stress in the lifestyle

(00:29:34) Insecurity IS a part of the lifestyle

(00:32:20) Lifestyle armor

(00:33:58) To beard or not to beard

(00:36:31) Superman cape or rationalization

(00:38:02) Rejection may not be about ‘you’

(00:39:29) It may just be awkward, not too late

(00:40:35) Personality; engagement and energy

(00:43:12) Engaging with others is more challenging for introverts

(00:44:44) Be authentic and vulnerable

(00:46:00) Figure out what you want and create those opportunities

(00:47:43) I’ll try anything twice

(00:50:27) ‘Clowning’ around about hair and other things

(00:55:20) You can expect to attract people similar to the level you groom yourself to

(00:59:16) Just say, ‘no’ to sandpaper

(01:01:45) Parting thoughts

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Join Zack, Josie, Brad and Brittany as they tackle another taboo subject: Masturbation! Join your hosts for this raw, honest, side-splitting conversation. You can probably relate to at least one of their masturbation discovery stories and if not, you can at least count on laughing along. Get a view inside their bedrooms and their minds as they each set the scene for how they masturbate now. Brad shares more about The Stranger and Josie finally clues us in on The Hoover Maneuver. This episode will be one of your favorites!

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(00:00:00) Brittany’s first experience happened in her 20’s!

(00:02:16) Belief that sex is for procreation only

(00:04:25) Judgment is deep-rooted

(00:06:01) Telling your doctor you’re a swinger

(00:07:35) Getting back to the topic…

(00:08:38) Electric toothbrush…shower head

(00:13:47) Do you ever jerk off?

(00:18:06) Zack was hooked

(00:19:47) Masturbation can be hot

(00:20:21) I was traumatized

(00:23:50) Getting caught

(00:25:54) If you wake up in the middle of the night…

(00:27:48) It’s in the ‘Book of Men’

(00:29:50) Benefits of masturbating before you go to sleep

(00:30:48) Setting the scene…how do you like to do it?

(00:33:00) Doing it together or when alone

(00:35:19) ‘The stranger’

(00:37:27) Learning how your partner likes to be touched

(00:39:22) The challenge with masturbating

(00:40:12) Making it part of your regular sex life

(00:41:59) We’ve never talked about this before

(00:42:30) Finishing…

(00:43:40) I want to be the one making her cum

(00:44:48) Benefits of doing it together

(00:46:54) The Hoover Maneuver…and other techniques

(00:49:32) Masterbating in play sessions

(00:52:12) Using the penis, hand and toys

(00:53:28) Hot or not: watching your play partner touch themselves

(00:58:19) The wrap up

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Join Zack, Josie, Brad and Brittany as they tackle another taboo subject: porn! You’ll gain insight into the type of porn that turns them each on, when they watch, who they watch it with and what they do while watching. Learn how their consumption has changed throughout their relationships and upon entering the lifestyle. Join your hosts as they take this fun, lighthearted journey through the topic of porn and be prepared to laugh until your belly hurts.

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(00:00:00) We dabbled in porn a little bit

(00:02:15) Brittany’s preferences

(00:03:52) Josie’s preferences…and an example

(00:07:29) Zack’s preference

(00:09:43) Brad’s preference…and an example

(00:11:13) No porn shaming here!

(00:13:15) Type varies; together vs alone

(00:15:48) Watching while receiving…ladies are a no

(00:16:25) A fun little rabbit hole…Josie’s fantasy

(00:19:52) Brittany gets a new toy

(00:23:10) Brad takes care of morning wood

(00:24:29) Watching porn together

(00:25:34) Just pick a porn!

(00:27:27) Type of porn we watch together

(00:29:28) Actions in porn that turn us off

(00:30:32) Gagging on cock..hot or not?

(00:32:50) Brad Gosse; The Goat with the Big Throat

(00:33:44) Ten minute blow jobs

(00:35:00) A blow job is like cold pizza

(00:35:37) Watching with other couples

(00:37:37) Recording our own porn and porn with other couples

(00:40:43) Photo and video etiquette

(00:42:40) We played a game…can you guess who’s giving the blow job?

(00:43:45) Sharing videos with other couples…yes or no; why or why not?

(00:47:35) Taking photos for your profile

(00:48:38) Brad’s first dick pic

(00:50:15) Receiving videos from potential play partners

(00:53:51) Erotic, sensual pictures vs graphic pictures

(00:55:06) Addicted to porn?

(00:56:28) Porn consumption since entering the lifestyle

(00:57:44) There’s nothing wrong with porn

(00:59:00) Brad’s porn binder

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In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad and Brittany dive into the complexities of consent in the lifestyle and how it can vary in different situations with different people; how to advocate for yourself and how misunderstandings can happen. Josie gets raw and vulnerable, sharing a powerful story of misplaced blame and emotional growth; Zack shares how this experience impacted him and their relationship. With laughter, unexpected twists, and lots of light-hearted banter, this episode is both enlightening and entertaining!

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(00:00:00) Consent is situational

(00:01:35) Women like to be pursued

(00:02:48) Partners on different ‘pages’ with PDA

(00:07:17) Asking for a first kiss vs not

(00:09:20) If you’re feeling the vibes, ask

(00:11:07) Reading women can be challenging for men

(00:13:29) Women want to feel safe

(00:14:58) It’s safer to ask for than assume you have consent

(00:17:30) Blanket consent can come with trust

(00:20:56) Different environments can impact consent tolerance

(00:22:29) Coming in the back door…our abs hurt!

(00:23:50) Asking for consent during a play session

(00:26:30) Women feel safe when men ask for consent

(00:28:16) Men get turned on when women ask for consent

(00:31:42) Flip side of consent is advocating for yourself

(00:32:23) Those are not starter cocks

(00:33:20) Turning someone down without killing the vibe

(00:35:58) Issuing a ‘no thank you’

(00:38:23) Advocating for yourself

(00:41:57) Sometimes advocating for yourself is personal

(00:43:23) Advocating for yourself during play

(00:46:03) Experiences in the lifestyle create growth opportunities

(00:49:15) Advocacy is empowering

(00:54:30) You can’t plan for every situation

(00:56:11) The lifestyle is fun yet challenging

(00:57:17) Men in the lifestyle are generally more respectful

(00:59:19) If in doubt, ask for consent

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Are you booked on a future Bliss cruise or maybe considering booking one? Join Zack, Josie, Brad and Brittany as they discuss their previous cruise experience and what they are planning to do differently on their next Bliss cruise. They share their tips from packing to travel to health and wellness and connecting with other people to increase the opportunities for connections and playdates.

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(00:00:00) What’s great about Bliss Cruises

(00:03:30) The perfect size and length

(00:04:35) We’re not cruisers

(00:05:54) You will find your people!

(00:07:09) We ‘missed’ the sail-away party

(00:11:12) Bucket lists and fantasies

(00:12:27) Growing and doing it differently this time

(00:14:31) Speed dating

(00:15:55) Different playrooms

(00:17:23) Experience of the group playroom

(00:20:03) Playing in the group playroom

(00:21:52) Keep it clean!

(00:23:17) Our dungeon experience

(00:25:31) St. Elmo…no, St. Andrew!

(00:28:01) I just wanted a drink!

(00:29:28) Eat dinner in the dining room!

(00:32:30) CYA…vanilla pictures and cover story

(00:33:57) All things promenade

(00:37:12) Meet Brad, the Mayor of Hot Tub Town!

(00:39:05) Happy hour showers & naked by nine!

(00:41:56) Planning tips for new cruisers

(00:45:22) Maintaining health, wellness and using condoms

(00:48:47) Decompression and re-entry

(00:50:41) We’ll do it different this time

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Join Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany as they explore the exciting and sometimes anxiety-ridden world of dirty talk. They discuss whether it’s ever truly comfortable and share their experiences with giving and receiving it. They dive into the dynamics of dirty talk while swinging versus when you’re with your primary partner and examine the feelings that arise when someone whispers in your partner’s ear. They also uncover the benefits of dirty talk and offer tips on how to use it in the lifestyle to create exciting play sessions.

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(00:00:00) It’s already getting hot in here!

(00:01:04) Dirty talk vs talking about sex

(00:02:41) Who’s comfortable with dirty talk?

(00:03:55) When Brad got comfortable with it

(00:05:19) It’s great feedback for lifestyle partners

(00:05:49) Josie shares a secret about her private fantasies

(00:07:58) Dirty talk can be embarrassing

(00:10:20) Dirty talk vs feedback

(00:13:41) Five second rule

(00:15:39) Dirty talk can be distracting

(00:17:56) It’s all fake, Brad!

(00:19:45) Zack Stat…is dirty talk popular?

(00:21:57) Name calling can be hit or miss

(00:23:31) Dirty talk can start before your playdate

(00:26:15) Are you ready for this…pressure?

(00:29:37) Dirty talk…Just let it out!

(00:31:02) We were inverted…like Top Gun

(00:34:30) Dirty talk and compersion

(00:37:50) Familiarity makes dirty talk more comfortable

(00:41:14) Feelings about hearing someone dirty talk to your partner

(00:44:37) Audible distractions during play sessions

(00:45:56) ‘Privately’ dirty talking to a play partner

(00:47:37) Dirty talk with your play partner can impact your life partner

(00:48:45) Brittany’s magic tongue

(00:49:23) Separate play…less stressful?

(00:50:57) Everybody enjoys something different

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