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Episode 14: Columbine
- De: Jim Clemente, Kathy Canning-Mello, James Bruce, John Meroney
- Narrado por: Jim Clemente, Kathy Canning-Mello
- Jul 11 2024
- Duración: 42 m
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- MAC24211
- 05-02-25
Interesting but please leave the slanted ideology unspoken.
The review of cases was good and interesting but the pro gun control rants are not good. Please just tell a story but leave the slanted ideology at home.
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- VA_DTOM
- 01-31-25
Labeling, judging but no understanding
Jim’s virtue signaling rants detract from the story and fact sharing. Very little on the facts of the case. Some time is spent on the killers. Listeners are held hostage by Jim’s gun control agenda using an extreme example to say all citizens shouldn’t have the right to defend themselves beyond fists. He labels people who are suicidal as a hair away from being murderers. I can see Kathy rolling her eyes when Jim goes off.
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- Amazon Customer
- 01-31-25
They are interesting.
Because they are honest and do not just ramble on. Everything is interesting and educational on what their process is.
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- Sara A Poulos
- 09-18-24
Sloppy on the facts
I had trouble even listening to these two.
Perhaps they have decent insights, but they are so sloppy with basic facts. If you know anything about the cases at all, you realize that their recitation of the facts is often riddled with errors. I don’t know why people like this do their job so poorly.
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- Cel
- 01-17-25
Suicidal people are murderers?
Seriously this is so problematic. The man in the show, who keeps screaming in each episode by the way, for no reason, declared that suicidal people do not value human life and that there is a thin line for them to become murderers. What is wrong with that man? I tried to end my life after severe health issues and ptsd, but I have never thought about hurting anyone. Why would that a-hole try to make me feel as a monster on top of things?
I am disgusted.
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- Kathleen Culver
- 05-01-25
The story is over 20 years old, get the basics right
I would not let these people profile a fictional character, let alone real criminals because they are so incredibly gullible that they fell for the five easiest to disprove myths about Columbine.
1) "Trench Coat Mafia" This myth orignated with a single eyewitness, and his dedicated media campaign to protect his dead friends who committed the killings. It was quickly disproven when JeffCo released the scans of the killers journals. They were not associated with the kids who referred to themselves as the Trench Coat Mafia. The closest thing to it is that they both wore long dusters, and one mutual friend was a fringe member of the group. The shooters were not associated with, nor did they hang out with, the "TCM"
2) "The shooters were bullied" This myth originated from the same media campaign by the best friend of the shooters. Eyewitness accounts, their own journals, and the family of the killers all corroborated that not only were the boys not bullied, they were often the perpetrators of bullying on others.
3) "The Shooting was Revenge" Once again, extremely easy to disprove because the killers WANTED us to know why they did it and they wrote pages and pages about their motivation, they filmed entire videos about their motivation. They wanted to kill people, plain and simple. They wanted to perpetrate an attack to rival the Oklahoma City Bombing and then go down in a blaze with the police.
It was never about revenge.
4) "They Targeted Athletes/Christians/People of Color" First, we consider that one of the shooters was obsessed with baseball and devoted every bit of his time and money outside of planning the massacre on supporting his baseball hobby. The other shooter was an active athlete and on the Columbine soccer team himself.
Only three of the deceased victims, and one survivor, were vocal christains and only one was an evangelical.
Lastly, there was only a single victim who was a person of color, Isaiah. One would assume that if race was a motivation, more victims would be people of color.
The facts are that NO ONE was targeted. They just wanted to kill people.
5) "The Violent Video Games The Shooters Played Causes The Attack" This one is so ridiculous that I cannot believe that degree carrying "experts" would actually repeat it.
Google, right now, how many copies of Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2 were sold in the US since it came out. Then, google the number of acts of gun violence perpetuated by a minor in the US during that same time frame.
I'm not a statistician, but I can confidently say that if violent video games actually had something to do with violent attacks on others, the number of copies sold would correlate to a rise in attacks. But we just don't see that.
0/10 This is god awful reporting, god awful profiling, and all together a waste of my time.
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