After launching a global anti-trafficking movement in his teens, Chris Schrader didn’t settle down—he leveled up.

In Part Two, the founder of the 24 Hour Race draws parallels between navigating the Gobi Desert and leading high-growth businesses across continents. From dropping out of Harvard to leading expeditions and scaling software companies, Chris shares why building teams isn’t about maximizing your strongest players—it’s about supporting your weakest. And why sometimes, real leadership means being the “secretary of the team,” not the star.

This episode goes beyond business tactics and into the mindset behind meaningful leadership. It’s a deep dive into servant leadership, self-doubt, ruthless decision-making, and how to chase your personal North Star—even if you never reach it.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When ISIS Threats and Identity Crises Collide

“Some challenges are existential—like not knowing what we are. Others are urgent—like whether to cancel an event after a terror threat.”

The Expedition Analogy: Climbing Unmapped Peaks

“Trying to grow an organization is like summiting a mountain no one’s climbed before—you’ll miss things, reroute, and sometimes have to turn back.”

The Gobi Desert and the North Star

“You navigate by stars knowing you’ll never touch them. That’s what great goals are—worth chasing even if you never arrive.”

The Secret to Team Performance

“You’re not defined by your best players. You’re defined by your weakest. Great leaders either lift them—or make hard calls.”

Servant Leadership Isn’t Just Humility—It’s Precision

“As a leader, I’m the expedition secretary. My job is to clear the path so my team can outperform me in every way.”

When to Cut Loose and When to Coach

“Too many leaders let low performers drag down morale. In expeditions, that mistake can get someone killed. In business, it just slowly kills momentum.”

The Myth-Building Side of Leadership

“Sometimes leadership means becoming something aspirational—a myth people can believe in. But you still serve the mission, not yourself.”

Between What You Want to Be and What You Need to Be

“I want to be the first man to circumnavigate the moon. But I need to be a good son, a great partner, a reliable chairman—and pay my sous-vide-powered electricity bill.”

The Hardest Impact Isn’t Global—It’s Personal

“It’s easy to romanticize Musk or Zuckerberg. Harder? Being the friend who actually shows up. That’s the real Paragon of humanity.”

_____________________

Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Chris Schrader

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
17 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>160,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

Sometimes the biggest movements begin with a simple question: What can I do?

In Part One, Chris Schrader, founder and executive chairman of the 24 Hour Race, shares the unfiltered origin story behind the world’s largest student-run movement to fight human trafficking. What started as a walk across England in memory of a friend became a 24-hour endurance race, then a global platform that’s raised over US$20 million across 25 cities.

But Chris doesn’t romanticize it. He breaks down how it all came together—messy, accidental, and fueled more by belief than a master plan. From skeptical school principals to six-figure fundraisers, this episode explores what happens when students stop waiting for permission and start building real impact from the ground up.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Walk That Started It All

“Six months after a joke about walking across England, we were actually doing it—and raised HK$200,000 for rare diseases.”

From Expedition to Endurance Sport

“We turned a 150km trek across Hong Kong into a run-swim-row challenge—just to prove what students could really do.”

The Birth of the 24 Hour Race

“A simple idea: teams running a 24-hour relay. No elite athletes, just anyone willing to push themselves for a cause.”

Why He Chose Human Trafficking—Without Knowing Much About It

“It wasn’t the topic at first. It was the intensity. We needed a cause strong enough to power people through the pain.”

Ignored by Schools, Backed by Students

“Principals laughed us out of the room. So we went straight to students—and they built the movement themselves.”

From One-Off Event to Global Force

“What was supposed to be a one-time race exploded. Within a year, we were oversubscribed and scaling city by city.”

Beyond Fundraising: Creating Life-Defining Moments

“It’s not just money. Over a million young people have done the race. We want them to remember it when they’re 80.”

Why They Treat Charity Like a Marketplace

“People come for the music, the sleepover, the fun—and that’s fine. We win them over without preaching.”

Raising Future Leaders, Not Just Dollars

“Student directors interview NGOs, ask hard questions, and learn how to be real fiduciaries—not just fundraisers.”

_____________________

Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Chris Schrader

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
17 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>160,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

In today’s world, financial advice is everywhere—but rarely helpful.

In Part Two, Michael Sakraida continues dismantling outdated ideas about wealth, offering a fresh framework that centers emotional intelligence and personal values. He explains why legacy isn’t just about what you leave behind, but how you live today. From the limits of “aggressive investor” labels to the chaos of unregulated financial influencers, Michael unpacks the hidden damage done by bad advice—and what real financial coaching should look like.

This episode is a must-listen if you’re tired of one-size-fits-all strategies and ready to treat your money like an extension of who you are, not just a number on a screen.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Redefining Financial Independence

“Real financial freedom is when you can work for joy—not for a paycheck. It’s about building a life and a legacy, not just hitting a number.”

Why Risk Tolerance Tests Don’t Work

“You can’t reduce human emotion to a 10-question quiz. And when fear hits, those ‘aggressive’ investors often panic first.”

The Emotional Blind Spot in Wealth Planning

“Advisors must ask three things: Where did your money come from? What do you want it to mean? And what’s your experience with Wall Street?”

From Bull Market Bravado to Bear Market Breakdown

“Long bull runs create fake confidence. The minute the market drops, people flip—and advisors are caught off guard.”

Why Financial Influencers Should Be Regulated (or Shut Down)

“If licensed advisors need approval for every email, why can anyone post financial advice to millions on TikTok without oversight?”

The Financial Media Smut Club

“Some writers don’t even understand what they’re publishing. They confuse inflation with inflation rate—and no one catches it.”

Investing Isn’t a DIY Project When Emotions Are Involved

“This isn’t like assembling IKEA furniture. When fear and greed show up, it’s not about logic—it’s about who you are.”

Money as a Mirror

“The more your investments reflect your values, the less likely you’ll get spooked by the market. That’s the power of alignment.”

Why He Wrote Money, Balance and Joy

“People don’t need another retirement calculator. They need a language for their emotions—and a way forward that actually fits who they are.”

_____________________

Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Michael Sakraida

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
17 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>160,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

Michael Sakraida didn’t write a money manual. He wrote a mindset shift.

In Part One, the author of Money, Balance and Joy shares how his upbringing, career in finance, and burnout led him to a new definition of wealth—one that includes time freedom and emotional fulfillment, not just financial metrics. He questions why Wall Street ignores the emotional toll of economic instability and how media-driven fear only adds to our sense of isolation and failure.

This episode covers the emotional underbelly of money: why we feel stuck, what control really looks like, and how to take back our narrative without a million-dollar bank balance.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Road Less Paved: Michael’s Unconventional Journey

“I took the road that wasn’t finished. It had potholes, wrong turns—but it made me who I am.”

Mentors, Musicians, and Money Lessons from Long Island

“Growing up, I met people who had money—and had fun. That stuck with me.”

Why He Turned Down the High-Paying Job

“I didn’t want to cold-call my way through life. I took less money for more meaning.”

The First Investor Who Hung Up—Then Jumped In

“He slammed the phone down. I called back and said, ‘You just made a mistake.’ He became our first big client.”

The Real Wealth Equation: Money, Time, Joy

“We’ve built a system that glorifies income but ignores how people spend their time—or who they spend it with.”

Why Wall Street Doesn’t Understand Real People

“For the top 10%, inflation is inconvenient. For the rest, it’s identity-shattering. And no one talks about it.”

Triage Your Change: Where to Focus, Where to Let Go

“Some changes aren’t worth the emotional capital. Focus on the ones that truly move your life forward.”

How Action Shapes Outlook

“You don’t change how you think by thinking. You change how you think by doing something different.”

Feeling Powerless Is the Real Crisis

“Money brings control. When we don’t have it, we need other ways to reclaim power—and move forward.”

_____________________

Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Michael Sakraida

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
17 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>160,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

You’re exhausted. The meetings are pointless, the politics are draining, and your boss sends Slack messages that trigger a fight-or-flight response. It feels like the only answer is to walk away.

But what if there’s another way?

In this episode, executive coach and author Darcy Eikenberg shares how to turn burnout into clarity without updating your résumé. Drawing from her book Red Cape Rescue: Save Your Career Without Leaving Your Job, Darcy walks us through how to reset how you think, revise what you say, and reinvent what you do—starting from exactly where you are.

With practical strategies, human stories, and a little neuroscience thrown in, this episode is your guide to taking back control without burning bridges—or burning out.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Red Cape Metaphor: Confidence, Not Costumes

“When you feel like your shoulders are back and you’re in control—that’s your red cape moment. And yes, you can create that at work.”

The Lizard Brain Is Lying to You

“Our primitive brain can’t tell the difference between a tiger and a tough email. Fear isn’t the problem—it’s how you respond to it.”

The Three Levers of Change

“We only control three things: what we say, what we do, and what we think. That’s it. But it’s enough.”

You Can’t See the Label From Inside the Jar

“Try this: record yourself venting about work, then play it back. Pull out the facts. Ditch the stories. You’ll be shocked at what you hear.”

Rewriting the Story Without Leaving the Company

“One client didn’t get the promotion. She wanted to quit. But instead, we helped her speak up—and now she leads the entire agency.”

When Mindset Blocks the Next Move

“Another client thought he was just being realistic. Turns out, everyone else thought he was negative—and it was holding him back.”

Fear Strategy > Fearlessness

“You don’t need to be fearless. You need a plan for when fear shows up—and it always does.”

What to Do First (Before You Quit)

“Get clear. What’s actually happening? What do you want? What’s in your control? Clarity is the first rescue step.”

Self-Awareness Is the New Leadership Superpower

“Your values matter. So does how you’re wired. One person’s burnout is another person’s boredom—know your triggers.”

______________________

Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guests: Darcy Eikenberg

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
17 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>160,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

What happens after you’ve lost everything—status, stability, and even your sense of self?

In Part Two, Sihame El Kaouakibi goes deeper into her journey of rebuilding: not just her career, but her core identity. From leaving toxic environments to redefining ambition, Sihame breaks down how Women Leaders OS came from her own healing, and how she now helps high-achieving women across cultures do the same.

She also opens up about why global coaching requires cultural fluency, why some success stories are just polished pain, and what it really means to be “enough” in a world obsessed with more. Whether you’re stuck in a golden cage or preparing for your next chapter, this episode is a lifeline—and a mirror.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Rock Bottom Was the Starting Line

“When you lose everything, the first thing to rebuild is belief—especially in yourself.”

Rejection = Redirection

“If you’re surviving instead of thriving, it’s time to quit. The environment shapes the outcome.”

You’re Not Too Emotional—You’re Just Not in the Right Room

“I was labeled difficult for being passionate. Turns out, I just needed a different tribe.”

What Women Leaders OS Really Means

“It’s not software—it’s a full system for healing, repurposing, and thriving after the fall.”

Building a Global Sisterhood, Not a One-Size-Fits-All Program

“My clients are from Belgium, the U.S., India, Singapore. Their pain is personal, but the patterns are universal.”

The Persona She Works With

“High-performing women who feel stuck, confused, or secretly miserable—those are my people.”

Career Pivots With Purpose

“Whether it’s closing a chapter or launching a new venture, I help women transition with clarity—not burnout.”

What Success Really Looks Like

“It’s not Instagram-perfect. It’s stumbling, growing, and showing up—again and again.”

Three Pieces of Advice for the Lost, Burnt Out, or Confused

“You don’t have to be perfect. The learning is in the doing. And no matter what—you are enough.”

_____________________

Connect with Us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Sihame El Kaouakibi

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
17 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>160,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

What happens when a rising political star crashes—publicly, painfully, and all at once?

In Part One, Sihame El Kaouakibi, Moroccan-born former Belgian MP and five-time founder, shares the deeply personal story behind her public unraveling. Once a celebrated social entrepreneur and national leader, Sihame faced burnout, betrayal, and bankruptcy—all while navigating racism, politics, and impossible expectations.

But instead of disappearing, she rebuilt. This episode is a raw look at what it means to hit rock bottom, question your worth, and slowly rise again—stronger, clearer, and more committed to purpose than ever. If you’ve ever felt stuck, silenced, or lost in your own ambition, this one’s for you.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Burnout, Bankruptcy, and the Breakthrough

“I lost everything—my energy, my confidence, even my bank account. But it became fertile ground.”

When Validation Becomes Addiction

“I built my identity on achievements. Without them, I felt like nobody.”

Politics Was a Zero-Sum Game. So She Quit.

“Entrepreneurship was about creation. Politics was about survival—and I was dying inside.”

The Messiah Complex Trap

“I believed I could change everything. I was wrong—and I paid the price.”

The Privilege of Slowing Down

“I had to let go of control, ego, and my former self. Healing took three years—but it gave me my life back.”

The Environment You Choose Shapes the Outcome You Get

“You’re not stuck—you’re just in the wrong pot. Rejection can be redirection.”

Women Leaders OS: Built From Her Own Scars

“I help women go from burnout to breakthrough—not with hustle, but with internal belief and system-level support.”

The Ugly Side of Glamour

“People you envy might be drowning. Success isn’t always Instagram-pretty.”

_____________________

Connect with Us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Sihame El Kaouakibi

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
17 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>160,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

Starting a franchise isn’t just a business move—it’s a mindset shift.

In Part Two, James Hilovsky—former athlete turned franchise consultant—goes beyond playbooks and into the real psychology of success. He explores why some athletes stumble when they let ego overtake strategy, how corporate professionals can regain control after layoffs, and why betting on yourself only works when you’re honest about what kind of help you need.

From risk tolerance to leadership, coachability to due diligence, this episode is packed with reality checks and real encouragement for anyone eyeing a second career through franchising. Whether you’re leaving the field or the boardroom, this is your roadmap for moving forward without going it alone.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When Ego Derails the Dream

“Some athletes think, ‘I can do it better than the franchisor.’ That mindset usually ends badly.”

Coachable or Combative? Know the Difference

“If you hated taking advice on the field, franchising might not be for you. Try entrepreneurship instead.”

From Control to Chaos: Managing the Transition

“Athletes are used to structure. Business is messy. That gap has to be managed with education and support.”

Risk Is a Feature, Not a Bug

“Franchising reduces risk—but it doesn’t remove it. You still have to lead, decide, and adapt.”

Franchisor as Business Partner, Not Boss

“The best franchisors act like coaches. They’ll guide you—but they won’t run the plays for you.”

Red Flags in the Franchise World

“If someone tells you it’s a ‘hands-off’ business or dodges your due diligence questions—run.”

Advice for Non-Athletes

“If fear is stopping you, ask yourself: what’s the real cost of staying stuck?”

Doing the Homework Before the Leap

“Talk to existing franchisees. Read the FDD. And never skip the financials.”

The Impact That Keeps Him Going

“I love helping people find a franchise they didn’t even know existed—and watching it change their lives.”

_________________________

Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: James Hilovsky

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
17 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>160,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<