After launching a global anti-trafficking movement in his teens, Chris Schrader didn’t settle down—he leveled up.

In Part Two, the founder of the 24 Hour Race draws parallels between navigating the Gobi Desert and leading high-growth businesses across continents. From dropping out of Harvard to leading expeditions and scaling software companies, Chris shares why building teams isn’t about maximizing your strongest players—it’s about supporting your weakest. And why sometimes, real leadership means being the “secretary of the team,” not the star.

This episode goes beyond business tactics and into the mindset behind meaningful leadership. It’s a deep dive into servant leadership, self-doubt, ruthless decision-making, and how to chase your personal North Star—even if you never reach it.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

When ISIS Threats and Identity Crises Collide

“Some challenges are existential—like not knowing what we are. Others are urgent—like whether to cancel an event after a terror threat.”

The Expedition Analogy: Climbing Unmapped Peaks

“Trying to grow an organization is like summiting a mountain no one’s climbed before—you’ll miss things, reroute, and sometimes have to turn back.”

The Gobi Desert and the North Star

“You navigate by stars knowing you’ll never touch them. That’s what great goals are—worth chasing even if you never arrive.”

The Secret to Team Performance

“You’re not defined by your best players. You’re defined by your weakest. Great leaders either lift them—or make hard calls.”

Servant Leadership Isn’t Just Humility—It’s Precision

“As a leader, I’m the expedition secretary. My job is to clear the path so my team can outperform me in every way.”

When to Cut Loose and When to Coach

“Too many leaders let low performers drag down morale. In expeditions, that mistake can get someone killed. In business, it just slowly kills momentum.”

The Myth-Building Side of Leadership

“Sometimes leadership means becoming something aspirational—a myth people can believe in. But you still serve the mission, not yourself.”

Between What You Want to Be and What You Need to Be

“I want to be the first man to circumnavigate the moon. But I need to be a good son, a great partner, a reliable chairman—and pay my sous-vide-powered electricity bill.”

The Hardest Impact Isn’t Global—It’s Personal

“It’s easy to romanticize Musk or Zuckerberg. Harder? Being the friend who actually shows up. That’s the real Paragon of humanity.”

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Sometimes the biggest movements begin with a simple question: What can I do?

In Part One, Chris Schrader, founder and executive chairman of the 24 Hour Race, shares the unfiltered origin story behind the world’s largest student-run movement to fight human trafficking. What started as a walk across England in memory of a friend became a 24-hour endurance race, then a global platform that’s raised over US$20 million across 25 cities.

But Chris doesn’t romanticize it. He breaks down how it all came together—messy, accidental, and fueled more by belief than a master plan. From skeptical school principals to six-figure fundraisers, this episode explores what happens when students stop waiting for permission and start building real impact from the ground up.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

The Walk That Started It All

“Six months after a joke about walking across England, we were actually doing it—and raised HK$200,000 for rare diseases.”

From Expedition to Endurance Sport

“We turned a 150km trek across Hong Kong into a run-swim-row challenge—just to prove what students could really do.”

The Birth of the 24 Hour Race

“A simple idea: teams running a 24-hour relay. No elite athletes, just anyone willing to push themselves for a cause.”

Why He Chose Human Trafficking—Without Knowing Much About It

“It wasn’t the topic at first. It was the intensity. We needed a cause strong enough to power people through the pain.”

Ignored by Schools, Backed by Students

“Principals laughed us out of the room. So we went straight to students—and they built the movement themselves.”

From One-Off Event to Global Force

“What was supposed to be a one-time race exploded. Within a year, we were oversubscribed and scaling city by city.”

Beyond Fundraising: Creating Life-Defining Moments

“It’s not just money. Over a million young people have done the race. We want them to remember it when they’re 80.”

Why They Treat Charity Like a Marketplace

“People come for the music, the sleepover, the fun—and that’s fine. We win them over without preaching.”

Raising Future Leaders, Not Just Dollars

“Student directors interview NGOs, ask hard questions, and learn how to be real fiduciaries—not just fundraisers.”

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Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
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Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
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In today’s world, financial advice is everywhere—but rarely helpful.

In Part Two, Michael Sakraida continues dismantling outdated ideas about wealth, offering a fresh framework that centers emotional intelligence and personal values. He explains why legacy isn’t just about what you leave behind, but how you live today. From the limits of “aggressive investor” labels to the chaos of unregulated financial influencers, Michael unpacks the hidden damage done by bad advice—and what real financial coaching should look like.

This episode is a must-listen if you’re tired of one-size-fits-all strategies and ready to treat your money like an extension of who you are, not just a number on a screen.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Redefining Financial Independence

“Real financial freedom is when you can work for joy—not for a paycheck. It’s about building a life and a legacy, not just hitting a number.”

Why Risk Tolerance Tests Don’t Work

“You can’t reduce human emotion to a 10-question quiz. And when fear hits, those ‘aggressive’ investors often panic first.”

The Emotional Blind Spot in Wealth Planning

“Advisors must ask three things: Where did your money come from? What do you want it to mean? And what’s your experience with Wall Street?”

From Bull Market Bravado to Bear Market Breakdown

“Long bull runs create fake confidence. The minute the market drops, people flip—and advisors are caught off guard.”

Why Financial Influencers Should Be Regulated (or Shut Down)

“If licensed advisors need approval for every email, why can anyone post financial advice to millions on TikTok without oversight?”

The Financial Media Smut Club

“Some writers don’t even understand what they’re publishing. They confuse inflation with inflation rate—and no one catches it.”

Investing Isn’t a DIY Project When Emotions Are Involved

“This isn’t like assembling IKEA furniture. When fear and greed show up, it’s not about logic—it’s about who you are.”

Money as a Mirror

“The more your investments reflect your values, the less likely you’ll get spooked by the market. That’s the power of alignment.”

Why He Wrote Money, Balance and Joy

“People don’t need another retirement calculator. They need a language for their emotions—and a way forward that actually fits who they are.”

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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Michael Sakraida

--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.

Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.

EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.
17 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
80+ Countries Reached Daily.
Global Top 1.5% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.

>>>160,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<