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  • [AUDIO] Jill Gunter: Espresso Systems, A Cross-chain Composability Layer
    Jul 7 2025

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    Summary

    In this engaging conversation, Jill Gunter from Espresso Systems shares insights into the intersection of philosophy and technology in the crypto space. The discussion explores the evolution of the industry, the importance of cross-chain composability, and how Espresso aims to solve the challenges posed by fragmented blockchain ecosystems. Jill emphasizes the need for a decentralized approach to interoperability and the significance of engaging developers in the crypto landscape. In this conversation, Jill discusses the challenges and experiences of developing on Ethereum and Solana, emphasizing the importance of developer experience and composability. She shares insights from her journey with the Orbs project, the shift in developer preferences towards Solana, and the philosophical differences between Ethereum's decentralized approach and Solana's more centralized model. Jill also highlights the significance of the Espresso Foundation in promoting decentralization and the future of blockchain development.

    Takeaways

    - Jill Gunter shares her journey in the crypto space.
    - Philosophy plays a significant role in the crypto industry.
    - Espresso aims to solve cross-chain composability issues.
    - The importance of decentralized systems in crypto.
    - Developers often don't recognize problems until they arise.
    - Espresso is designed as a B2B chain for interoperability.
    - The need for fast finality in cross-chain transactions.
    - Engaging developers is crucial for the future of Espresso.
    - Espresso's hackathon aims to foster innovation.
    - The evolution of the crypto industry from ideology to practicality. The Orbs project faced significant challenges on Ethereum due to high costs and scalability issues.
    - Developers are increasingly gravitating towards Solana for its more supportive environment.
    - Ethereum's fragmentation is a key factor in its struggle to attract new developers.
    - The Cathedral and the Bazaar metaphor illustrates different development philosophies in blockchain.
    - Espresso Systems aims to simplify the app chain deployment process for developers.
    - Building something real in crypto is essential for long-term success.
    - The Espresso Foundation represents a move towards greater decentralization in blockchain development.
    - The future of blockchain will likely involve modular solutions and app chains.
    - Community support is crucial for onboarding new developers in the crypto space.
    - Collaboration among different projects is vital for achieving interoperability in blockchain.

    Timeline

    00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
    01:06 Philosophical Roots in Crypto
    05:38 Exploring Espresso Systems
    09:27 Understanding Cross-Chain Composability
    19:25 Espresso's Role in the Blockchain Ecosystem
    27:58 Engaging Developers and the Future of Espresso
    29:14 The Journey of Orbs: A Cautionary Tale
    32:16 Developer Experience: The Shift to Solana
    33:36 Ethereum vs. Solana: A Comparative Analysis
    35:24 The Cathedral and the Bazaar: Two Development Philosophies
    41:13 Espresso Systems: Building for the Future
    52:24 Building Something Real: The Long-Term Vision
    58:20 Decentralization and the Espresso Foundation

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    1 h y 3 m
  • [AUDIO] David Rhodus: Building the Future of Streaming: Pipe Network and the DePIN Revolution
    Jul 3 2025

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    Summary

    In this episode, David Rhodus, founder and CEO of Permissionless Labs, shares his journey from AWS to Web3 infrastructure. He talks about launching Pipe Network, a decentralized content delivery network (CDN) designed to tackle video latency using a network of incentivized node operators. David breaks down the role of the POP client, explains how tokenomics will drive adoption, and reflects on building a two-sided marketplace that serves both streaming services and infrastructure providers. He also hints at future plans to go beyond video and support other data-heavy use cases like AI.

    Takeaways

    — David’s time at AWS shaped his approach to building hyper-resilient systems.

    — Pipe Network addresses video latency by using a decentralized CDN model.

    — The POP client lets everyday users contribute bandwidth as node operators.

    — Token incentives are key to driving participation and long-term network growth.

    — The team is focused on product execution more than hype or community right now.

    — Feedback from streaming companies helps iterate and improve the service.

    — Web3 enables new coordination models that are ideal for global infrastructure.

    — The vision goes beyond video—future use cases could include AI workloads and more.

    Timeline

    (00:00) From Amazon to Entrepreneurship: Lessons Learned

    (03:01) The Journey into Crypto: Early Experiences

    (05:57) Building Pipe Network: Addressing Video Streaming Challenges

    (08:57) Innovating with Blockchain: The Role of CDN

    (11:56) Hyperlocal Edge Nodes: Reducing Latency in Streaming

    (14:55) The Multi-CDN Strategy: Competing in the Streaming Market

    (17:57) Incentivizing Node Operators: The POP Client and Tokenomics

    (21:05) Ensuring Security: Zero Knowledge Proofs in Streaming

    (23:51) Future of Pipe Network: Permissionless and Global Impact

    (25:22) The Power of Streaming and Community Nodes

    (29:26) Innovating Beyond Video: Expanding Use Cases

    (32:18) Tokenomics and the Burn-Mint Equilibrium Model

    (35:44) Becoming a Node Operator: The Onboarding Process

    (38:04) Preparing for Full Production and Revenue Generation

    (39:57) Skepticism in Web3: A Different Perspective

    (43:20) The Role of Crypto in Coordination and Innovation

    (44:28) Targeting Node Deployment: Meeting Customer Needs

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    43 m
  • [AUDIO] June Ou and Provenance Blockchain: Mortgages, Life Insurance, and the Future of Blockchain Finance
    Jul 2 2025

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    Summary

    In this episode, June Ou, co-founder of Provenance Blockchain, breaks down how blockchain can streamline the financial system by removing middlemen and making transactions more transparent. She shares how Provenance started with lending and securities, but is now tackling more complex assets like life insurance and mortgages. June emphasizes that tokenization isn’t just about putting assets on-chain—it’s about ensuring the truth of ownership. She discusses how Provenance works with traditional institutions, educates them through working use cases, and tracks real-time loan performance to bring more trust into the system. With an evolving regulatory landscape and a focus on community building, Provenance is positioning itself as core infrastructure for the next generation of finance.



    Takeaways
    – Provenance Blockchain aims to decentralize core financial functions.
    – June Ou entered crypto to eliminate inefficiencies in legacy finance.
    – Early focus was on lending and securities trading.
    – Tokenization must reflect verified ownership—not just digital copies.
    – Traditional institutions need proof-of-concept to engage seriously.
    – Key on-chain metrics include loan volume and performance.
    – Real-time data helps track market changes and risk.
    – Regulatory clarity is improving, enabling broader adoption.
    – Asset onboarding for institutions needs to be simpler and faster.
    – Life insurance is hard to tokenize due to legacy systems.
    – The mortgage market is a major opportunity for Provenance.
    – Community is essential to drive adoption and education.
    – Provenance is built to scale as regulation and demand evolve.



    Timeline

    (00:00) Introduction to Provenance Blockchain and Its Vision
    (03:46) The Role of Blockchain in Financial Transformation
    (06:36) Building the Lending Ecosystem on Blockchain
    (09:37) Challenges in Tokenizing Real World Assets
    (12:50) Educating Traditional Finance on Blockchain Benefits
    (15:48) Real-Time Performance and Transparency in Loans
    (19:00) Simplifying Asset Boarding for Institutions
    (21:43) The Future of Blockchain in Life Insurance
    (27:28) Simplifying Blockchain Integration
    (29:07) Digitizing Assets for Blockchain
    (31:32) Navigating Legal and Compliance Challenges
    (33:14) Building a Self-Service Blockchain Model
    (36:26) Community Building in Blockchain
    (38:47) Innovative Mortgage Products
    (41:49) Regulatory Landscape and Challenges
    (44:33) Exciting Developments with SEC Collaboration
    (50:30) Open Dialogue with Regulators

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    54 m
  • [AUDIO] Chris Yin: How Plume Network Is Leading the Real World Asset (RWA) Revolution in Crypto
    Jul 1 2025

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    Summary

    Chris Yin, co-founder and CEO of Plume Network, shares his journey from door-to-door sales to building one of the most promising Layer 2 solutions focused on Real World Assets (RWAs). He explains why every founder needs to master sales, especially when pitching investors and rallying users. The conversation dives deep into Plume’s mission to make RWAs—especially yield-bearing products like mineral rights—more accessible and useful on-chain. Chris also discusses Plume’s modular architecture, the influence of upcoming legislation like the Genius Act, and why grounding product development in real user needs is essential in a hype-driven market. Plume isn’t just building infrastructure—it’s building an ecosystem and community around the future of tokenized real-world value.

    Takeaways

    — Every founder is ultimately in sales—whether convincing users, investors, or partners.

    — Door-to-door sales experience builds critical resilience and communication skills.

    — Real World Assets (RWAs) are key to connecting crypto to real economic value.

    — Plume focuses on making RWA interaction seamless for both users and developers.

    — Yield-bearing products like mineral rights offer new on-chain investment opportunities.

    — Tokenizing alternative assets can open access to previously untapped markets.

    — Plume’s modular Layer 2 is designed for interoperability and easy asset transfer.

    — The Genius Act could change how RWAs are treated under U.S. regulation.

    — Community is central to Plume’s go-to-market strategy, not just tech.

    — Staying grounded amid hype cycles is crucial for long-term success.

    Timeline

    (00:00) Introduction and personal note

    (02:57) Sales skills and founder mindset

    (05:48) What are Real World Assets (RWAs)?

    (09:01) Who Plume is building for

    (12:01) Why yield-bearing assets matter

    (14:00) Deep dive: tokenizing mineral rights

    (20:12) Examples of unique tokenized assets

    (23:06) Modular architecture and cross-ecosystem plans

    (28:04) Does crypto need another L1?

    (29:01) The Genius Act and regulatory tailwinds

    (30:58) The future of RWAs in America

    (33:43) Plume’s evolving role in crypto

    (35:23) Who are RWA holders, really?

    (39:59) UX is the unlock for RWA adoption

    (41:24) Partnership strategy in the RWA space

    (45:18) Building community engagement

    (48:34) Navigating hype with humility

    (51:31) Reflections on crypto’s early days and future growth

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    57 m
  • [AUDIO] Campbell Easton: Redstone The Modular Blockchain Oracle vs Monolithic Chainlink
    Jun 30 2025

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    Summary

    In this conversation, Campbell Easton, head of communications at Redstone Oracles, shares his journey into the crypto space, the innovative modular approach of Redstone in the blockchain oracle market, and the importance of client integration and support. He discusses the challenges and solutions related to real-world assets, the integration of Bitcoin, and the advancements in oracle technology, including the potential intersection of decentralized finance and AI. In this conversation, Campbell discusses the innovative communication methods being developed for AI networks, the importance of security in product development, and the concept of Oracle Extractable Value (OEV). He emphasizes the significance of building a community around oracles, gamifying engagement, and creating a unique community language. The discussion also covers event marketing strategies, content marketing, and educational initiatives, culminating in future plans for Redstone and how the community can get involved.

    Takeaways

    - Campbell started with crypto in 2018, mining Ethereum.
    - Redstone is the fastest growing blockchain oracle.
    - Oracles are essential for DeFi applications.
    - Redstone's modular approach allows for rapid integration.
    - Client integration is streamlined and efficient at Redstone.
    - Real-world assets require customized oracle solutions.
    - Integrating Bitcoin is less complex with Redstone's tech.
    - Why Redstone is better than Chainlink
    - User experience and security are top priorities for Redstone.
    - Redstone OEV aims to revolutionize liquidation processes.
    - AI and DeFi are converging with new projects like Clara. AI networks are evolving with new communication layers.
    - Security is the top priority for engineering teams.
    - OEV is a critical yet underexplored area in oracles.
    - Community engagement is essential for oracles' success.
    - Gamification can enhance community involvement.
    - Authentic community building leads to better engagement.
    - Unique language fosters a strong community identity.
    - Event marketing increases brand visibility.
    - Educational content can attract new users.
    - Redstone is focused on creating valuable products.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Campbell Easton and Redstone Oracles
    02:25 Campbell's Journey into Crypto and DeFi
    03:19 Understanding Blockchain Oracles
    05:02 Redstone's Modular Approach to Oracles
    09:15 Client Integration and Support at Redstone
    12:22 Real World Assets and Custom Solutions
    15:29 Integrating Bitcoin and Other Chains
    17:25 Enhancing User Experience and Security
    18:04 Innovations in Oracle Technology
    21:25 The Intersection of DeFi and AI
    24:28 Innovative Communication in AI Networks
    26:29 Prioritizing Security in Product Development
    28:04 Understanding Oracle Extractable Value (OEV)
    31:21 Building a Community Around Oracles
    33:35 Gamifying Community Engagement
    35:55 The Importance of Authentic Community Building
    37:35 Creating Unique Community Language
    39:20 Event Marketing Strategies for Visibility
    43:32 Content Marketing and Educational Strategies
    46:44 Future Plans and Community Involvement

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    51 m
  • [AUDIO] Yash Agarwal: From Hackathon to Ecosystem--How Send AI Is Fueling Solana’s AI Ambitions
    Jun 28 2025

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    In this conversation, Yash Agarwal, co-founder of Send AI, discusses his journey into the Solana ecosystem, the motivation behind launching the Solana AI Hackathon, and the subsequent development of Send AI and the Solana Agent Kit. He emphasizes the importance of building a robust AI ecosystem on Solana and shares insights into the future of AI agents and the Send ecosystem, including the role of the Send coin and various upcoming projects.



    Takeaways


    Yash Agarwal entered the Solana ecosystem in 2021 during a bull market.

    The Super Team community played a crucial role in his journey.

    Solana's active developer community attracted him to the ecosystem.

    The Solana AI Hackathon aimed to position Solana as a leader in AI agents.

    Send AI was born out of the need for a focused AI initiative in Solana.

    The Solana Agent Kit has seen significant adoption among developers.

    Send AI aims to grow the Solana AI landscape exponentially.

    The Send ecosystem includes various products, including games and tools for developers.

    AI agents are still in their infancy but have great potential for future development.

    The Send coin serves as an attention token for the ecosystem.



    Timeline


    00:00 Introduction to Yash Agarwal and Solana Ecosystem

    02:53 The Rise of Send AI and the AI Hackathon

    05:55 Building the Solana AI Ecosystem

    09:01 The Launch of Send AI and Its Vision

    11:49 The Solana Agent Kit: Features and Adoption

    14:55 Expanding the Send Ecosystem: Games and Apps

    17:51 Future of AI Agents and Their Market Fit

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    43 m
  • [AUDIO] Anthony Broderick on Liquidity, Bridging, Modular Future, and Multi-chain DeFi
    Jun 27 2025

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    Summary

    In this episode, Anthony Broderick, co-founder of Lucid Labs, shares how his passion for economics and political transparency led him into crypto. He discusses the foundational ideas behind Lucid—a modular hub designed to streamline multi-chain DeFi by solving fragmentation and bridging challenges, including protocol-owned liquidity. Anthony unpacks the need for better no-code tools, sustainable liquidity through protocol-owned assets, and deeper community involvement. He also reflects on the difficulties of defining Lucid’s place in a fast-moving ecosystem, and the importance of real-world relationships in building long-term value in crypto.


    Takeaways

    — Anthony’s interest in fiat systems and dark money sparked his move into crypto.

    — Lucid is a modular DeFi hub focused on simplifying multi-chain participation.

    — Cross-chain bridging remains a critical problem in DeFi.

    — No-code tools open the door for a broader range of developers.

    — Protocol-owned liquidity can provide more sustainable project financing.

    — Community engagement and education are essential to long-term adoption.

    — Building human relationships still matters—even in decentralized spaces.

    — Lucid aims to offer infrastructure that evolves with the modular blockchain future.

    — The project resists traditional categories, reflecting the evolving crypto stack.


    Timeline

    (00:00) Anthony’s crypto and economics background

    (05:59) Challenges of multi-chain DeFi

    (11:51) New approaches to liquidity management

    (17:53) Community engagement and protocol success

    (33:32) Reviving old wisdom in DeFi design

    (39:14) Collaboration with Everclear

    (44:40) Community building strategies

    (52:40) Positioning Lucid in the market

    (58:13) Using events to build connections

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    1 h y 1 m
  • [AUDIO] Brendon Sedo: Yield on Bitcoin? CoreDAO’s Vision for Institutional DeFi
    Jun 26 2025

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    In this conversation, Brendan Sedo shares his path from a 15-year career in tech to his current role at CoreDAO. He dives into the platform’s mission to expand Bitcoin’s utility, particularly through products like LST Bitcoin that offer yield without compromising decentralization. Brendan highlights how customer development, institutional partnerships, and community building are central to CoreDAO’s growth. He also discusses how content marketing and hackathons play a vital role in educating users and attracting builders. Throughout, his long-term focus is clear: create a sustainable, user-friendly ecosystem that unlocks new layers of value for Bitcoin.

    Takeaways

    — Brendan Sedo brings 15+ years of tech experience, including a successful startup exit, to the crypto world.

    — Customer development is a core focus, ensuring real-world problems are solved through user feedback.

    — CoreDAO aims to expand Bitcoin’s utility, not just store its value.

    — LST Bitcoin offers a low-risk yield product targeted at institutions.

    — Institutions show growing interest in Bitcoin yield with manageable risk profiles.

    — CoreDAO is building a two-sided network with both retail and institutional traction.

    — Developer engagement is being fueled through upcoming hackathons.

    — Content marketing is key to onboarding and educating users about Bitcoin, staking, and DeFi.

    — CoreDAO’s vision is long-term, with an emphasis on sustainability and trust.

    — The team is focused on creating a blockchain that balances innovation with accessibility.


    Timeline

    (00:00) Introduction to Brendan Sedo and CoreDAO

    (03:58) Brendan’s journey into crypto and background in tech

    (07:02) Lessons from customer development in the construction industry

    (09:55) Applying user-centric development to crypto products

    (12:43) CoreDAO’s mission to increase Bitcoin’s utility

    (15:52) Sidechains vs Layer 2s: technical distinctions

    (18:48) Intro to Bitcoin staking and the concept of yield

    (21:55) Institutional approach to LST Bitcoin

    (24:53) What institutions want: feedback and risk appetite

    (27:46) Building a two-sided market: retail and institutions

    (32:04) Launching with community involvement

    (33:07) Gaming and new verticals on Core

    (34:26) Hybrid consensus: Proof of Work + Stake

    (36:57) Educating users through content marketing

    (42:13) Hackathons as a strategy to attract developers

    (46:04) Bitcoin’s next chapter: competition and opportunity

    (50:30) Wallet UX and integrating user experience

    (55:14) What’s next: growth, vision, and community

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