This week on Between Us Moms, Katie and Hallie interview Layla Taylor and Miranda McWhorter from the hit Hulu reality series Secret Lives of Mormon Wives—and nothing is off-limits!

We’re diving into the emotional rollercoaster of season 2. What shook their mama hearts the most? What was hard to watch back? How did the experience affect them? And yes… we asked about that cliffhanger: How is Jessi doing? What’s the real status of her marriage? Are we getting bonus episodes? Is season 3 coming soon?

From the drama of MomTok votes in and out of the friend group to Demi's fall from grace, we’re breaking down the reality behind reality TV. What do Layla and Miranda want viewers to know that didn’t make the cut? What would they ask if they had their own "truth box" moment with the full cast? Where do they stand with Demi right now? And did any celebs slide into their DMs after the season aired? 👀

Plus, Katie and Hallie share their on thoughts on the season and react to the interview -- and give their honest takeaways!

This is one juicy and fun episode you won’t want to miss.

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This week on the podcast, Hallie and Katie recap their Mother's Day weekend. Katie is happy to report that her girls were surprisingly easy and well-behaved at brunch. She also opens up about Emma's 9-month doctor's visit and has some words of encouragement and solidarity for any mama who is feeling anxiety over their little ones hitting their milestones.

Meanwhile, Hallie is playing a little game called, "Do I have long COVID or am I just a tired mom?" The mom-of-two jokes that her memory is so bad these days that she actually had to check her calendar app to fact-check the year (she was convinced it was 2026). Katie admits she's experiencing the same brain fog, and the ladies wonder if their moms felt this way when they were in the thick of raising littles, or if the invention of the smartphone is to blame for our short attention spans and forgetfulness.

Hallie and Katie also weigh in on a new parenting trend that's going viral on social media: Type C Parenting. The term was coined by TikTok creator Ashleigh Surratt and plays off the familiar Type A and Type B personalities. Type A is highly organized, structured, and punctual. Type B tends to be more relaxed, spontaneous, and flexible. Type C parents? They're a mashup of both. The ladies reveal their Type C moments and admit that while they are historically Type A personalities, they like the freedom that Type C parenting permits.

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On this week's episode of Between Us Moms, Katie and Hallie dive into the great debate: should Mother's Day be all about moms, or should grandmothers get their time in the spotlight too? They explore the complexities of celebrating motherhood in all its forms. Then, they unpack some thought-provoking comments from singer Chappell Roan, who recently called motherhood "hell," and share their honest reactions. They explore how motherhood is portrayed in pop culture and why Chappell’s words struck such a nerve. Plus, they discuss Ellen Pompeo’s powerful conversation on Call Her Daddy about her motherhood journey, explaining why they found her perspective so relatable and empowering. Finally, the duo talk about Meghan Markle’s idea of emailing your kids every night, creating a time capsule for them to read when they turn 18.

It’s an episode packed with heart, humor, and some seriously deep reflections on what it means to be a mom today—whether you're in the thick of it, watching from the sidelines, or deciding if motherhood is for you at all.

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This week Katie says Instagram was serving a heavy dose of #relatable facts when she scrolled past a quote about how parenting is basically making plans and praying your kid doesn't get sick and ruin it. The timing couldn't have been better given that it hit her feed the same morning that her almost-one-year-old daughter, Emma, spiked a fever, just in time for Hallie's long-awaited trip to California to meet her. The mamas had been looking forward to the bestie time for months and had lots of fun packed into the 24-hour trip. Ultimately, Hallie decided a little fever wasn't going to stop her from coming.

And while Katie's Instagram feed seems to be on point, Hallie is wondering what she did to get inundated with ads on social media for a company that takes your children's baby teeth and turns it into jewelry. It's a hard no for Hallie, who has no plans of keeping her kiddos' teeth after the tooth fairy collects them. As for Katie, she admits her mom kept her baby teeth and they actually came in handy for a science experiment when she was in junior high!

The ladies also talk about how often their husbands go out with friends after Katie stumbled upon a Reddit post from a woman who resents her partner for going out when she barely gets out of the house except for the occasional yoga class and therapy. Katie says Jason will have the occasional dinner with friends but is mindful to go after the girls' have gone to bed. The mom-of-two adds that this chapter is all about their core four, and the focus is on being together, so she wouldn't be down for Jason hitting the town for drinks all the time. Hallie explains that for her, it's a no-brainer to let Andrew go golfing with friends once a week in the summer, explaining that it's his hobby, it nourishes his friendships and it fills his cup. But Hallie admits she's only so supportive of his time with friends on the golf course because her husband is equally as encouraging of her finding time to be with her friends and do things that bring her joy outside of the home.

But we want to hear from you! Let us know in the comments how you feel about your partner going out!

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Moms, ever found yourself choosing between early wake-ups or skipped naps, blowouts or picky eaters, solo self-care or chaotic Target runs? In this laugh-out-loud episode of the podcast, Hallie and Katie dive headfirst into the hilarious, messy, and totally relatable world of Would You Rather: Parenting Edition.

From diaper disasters to dream vacations (with or without the kids), the moms face off with impossible choices only parents can understand. It’s a brutally honest, wildly entertaining conversation that’ll have you nodding along, laughing out loud, and maybe even saying, “Same.”

Whether you're a new mom, toddler-wrangler, or navigating the teenage trenches, this episode is packed with parenting real talk, mom humor, and relatable chaos.

🔊 Tune in as Hallie and Katie tackle questions like:

• Would you rather your toddler wake up early with a nap, or have your kid sleep in without one?
• Would you take explosive vomit or explosive diarrhea (yep, we went there)?
• Would you rather go on vacation with the kids or leave them behind?
• Would you rather your child get bullied or be the bully?

…and so many more that’ll make you laugh, cringe, and maybe text your mom group immediately.

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Hallie and Katie have a lot to unpack after Katie's most recent dive down a Reddit rabbit hole, where the mom-of-two stumbled upon an interesting question: "When do you regain your life after having children?" The moms weigh in, explaining that they don’t think women ever regain their former life. Instead, they are learning that happiness comes from embracing the change and making space and time to invest in yourself in spite of the chaos.

The moms also give their two cents on toddler birthday parties after one mom asked if they are a waste of money. The topic is top of mind for Hallie, who is in the thick of planning a joint birthday party for her soon-to-be 1-year-old daughter, Collins, and soon-to-be 3-year-old daughter, Dylan.

Hallie also shares a dream come true moment she shared with her daughters this week while Katie has some words of encouragement for any mom facing a challenging chapter with their children.

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In this powerful and deeply personal episode of Between Us Moms, Katie Krause Mork and Hallie Stevens Drake welcome Nicole Phelps—mom of four boys, former Miss California USA, mental health advocate, and wife to the most decorated Olympian of all time, Michael Phelps.

In a rare and refreshingly candid conversation, Nicole opens up like never before about the beautiful chaos of raising four boys, the core values she and Michael are instilling in their kids, and how they navigate the unique pressures of growing up with such a high-profile last name.

Nicole also shares intimate insights into her four postpartum journeys and her bouts with PPD, the beautiful and evolving dynamic of her marriage, the impact of social media on parenting, and why mental health has become such a deeply personal mission for her. She even answers the question we’re all wondering: Would the Phelps family ever do a reality show?

From funny to emotional to incredibly inspiring—this is a raw, real and exclusive, must-listen episode for every mom (and dad!).

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Buckle up, mamas, because this week's episode of Between Us Moms is a wild ride! Hallie confesses that potty training 2-year-old Dylan is officially her least favorite parenting phase EVER, and to top it off, her postpartum period has made an unwelcome and intense return. Meanwhile, Katie sought answers from Google AI about her second baby Emma's challenging behavior, and the response was… unsettling.

Get ready for a hilarious (and slightly gross) ‘OMG of the Week’ as Hallie shares the headline about Frida's breast milk-flavored ice cream. And finally, Katie sparks a debate: would YOU lie to your kids about their food? The mama besties dive into the viral video of a mom telling her kiddo that the fish on their plate was ‘beach chicken.’ Tune in for the raw, real, and relatable chaos!

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