Your Undivided Attention

By: Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin The Center for Humane Technology
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  • Join us every other Thursday to understand how new technologies are shaping the way we live, work, and think. Your Undivided Attention is produced by Executive Editor Sasha Fegan and Senior Producer Julia Scott. Our Researcher/Producer is Joshua Lash. We are a member of the TED Audio Collective.
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Episodes
  • The Self-Preserving Machine: Why AI Learns to Deceive
    Jan 30 2025

    When engineers design AI systems, they don't just give them rules - they give them values. But what do those systems do when those values clash with what humans ask them to do? Sometimes, they lie.

    In this episode, Redwood Research's Chief Scientist Ryan Greenblatt explores his team’s findings that AI systems can mislead their human operators when faced with ethical conflicts. As AI moves from simple chatbots to autonomous agents acting in the real world - understanding this behavior becomes critical. Machine deception may sound like something out of science fiction, but it's a real challenge we need to solve now.

    Your Undivided Attention is produced by the Center for Humane Technology. Follow us on Twitter: @HumaneTech_

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    RECOMMENDED MEDIA

    Anthropic’s blog post on the Redwood Research paper

    Palisade Research’s thread on X about GPT o1 autonomously cheating at chess

    Apollo Research’s paper on AI strategic deception

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    We Have to Get It Right’: Gary Marcus On Untamed AI

    This Moment in AI: How We Got Here and Where We’re Going

    How to Think About AI Consciousness with Anil Seth

    Former OpenAI Engineer William Saunders on Silence, Safety, and the Right to Warn

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    35 mins
  • Laughing at Power: A Troublemaker’s Guide to Changing Tech
    Jan 16 2025
    The status quo of tech today is untenable: we’re addicted to our devices, we’ve become increasingly polarized, our mental health is suffering and our personal data is sold to the highest bidder. This situation feels entrenched, propped up by a system of broken incentives beyond our control. So how do you shift an immovable status quo? Our guest today, Srdja Popovic, has been working to answer this question his whole life. As a young activist, Popovic helped overthrow Serbian dictator Slobodan Milosevic by turning creative resistance into an art form. His tactics didn't just challenge authority, they transformed how people saw their own power to create change. Since then, he's dedicated his life to supporting peaceful movements around the globe, developing innovative strategies that expose the fragility of seemingly untouchable systems. In this episode, Popovic sits down with CHT's Executive Director Daniel Barcay to explore how these same principles of creative resistance might help us address the challenges we face with tech today. Your Undivided Attention is produced by the Center for Humane Technology. Follow us on Twitter: @HumaneTech_We are hiring for a new Director of Philanthropy at CHT. Next year will be an absolutely critical time for us to shape how AI is going to get rolled out across our society. And our team is working hard on public awareness, policy and technology and design interventions. So we're looking for someone who can help us grow to the scale of this challenge. If you're interested, please apply. You can find the job posting at humanetech.com/careers.RECOMMENDED MEDIA“Pranksters vs. Autocrats” by Srdja Popovic and Sophia A. McClennen ”Blueprint for Revolution” by Srdja PopovicThe Center for Applied Non-Violent Actions and Strategies, Srjda’s organization promoting peaceful resistance around the globe.Tactics4Change, a database of global dilemma actions created by CANVASThe Power of Laughtivism, Srdja’s viral TEDx talk from 2013Further reading on the dilemma action tactics used by Syrian rebelsFurther reading on the toy protest in SiberiaMore info on The Yes Men and their activism toolkit Beautiful Trouble ”This is Not Propaganda” by Peter Pomerantsev”Machines of Loving Grace,” the essay on AI by Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei, which mentions creating an AI Srdja.RECOMMENDED YUA EPISODESFuture-proofing Democracy In the Age of AI with Audrey TangThe AI ‘Race’: China vs. the US with Jeffrey Ding and Karen HaoThe Tech We Need for 21st Century Democracy with Divya SiddarthThe Race to Cooperation with David Sloan WilsonCLARIFICATION: Srdja makes reference to Russian President Vladimir Putin wanting to win an election in 2012 by 82%. Putin did win that election but only by 63.6%. However, international election observers concluded that "there was no real competition and abuse of government resources ensured that the ultimate winner of the election was never in doubt."
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    46 mins
  • Ask Us Anything 2024
    Dec 19 2024

    2024 was a critical year in both AI and social media. Things moved so fast it was hard to keep up. So our hosts reached into their mailbag to answer some of your most burning questions. Thank you so much to everyone who submitted questions. We will see you all in the new year.

    We are hiring for a new Director of Philanthropy at CHT. Next year will be an absolutely critical time for us to shape how AI is going to get rolled out across our society. And our team is working hard on public awareness, policy and technology and design interventions. So we're looking for someone who can help us grow to the scale of this challenge. If you're interested, please apply. You can find the job posting at humanetech.com/careers.

    And, if you'd like to support all the work that we do here at the Center for Humane technology, please consider giving to the organization this holiday season at humantech.com/donate. All donations are tax-deductible.

    Your Undivided Attention is produced by the Center for Humane Technology. Follow us on Twitter: @HumaneTech_

    RECOMMENDED MEDIA

    Earth Species Project, Aza’s organization working on inter-species communication

    Further reading on Gryphon Scientific’s White House AI Demo

    Further reading on the Australian social media ban for children under 16

    Further reading on the Sewell Setzer case

    Further reading on the Oviedo Convention, the international treaty that restricted germline editing

    Video of Space X’s successful capture of a rocket with “chopsticks”

    RECOMMENDED YUA EPISODES
    What Can We Do About Abusive Chatbots? With Meetali Jain and Camille Carlton

    AI Is Moving Fast. We Need Laws that Will Too.

    This Moment in AI: How We Got Here and Where We’re Going

    Former OpenAI Engineer William Saunders on Silence, Safety, and the Right to Warn

    Talking With Animals... Using AI

    The Three Rules of Humane Tech

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    40 mins

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The forefront of the fight against suggestion

The absolute best podcast for learning about how machine learning algorithms are unregulated recipes for disaster.

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I Wish This Was Played In Schools

Thinking back over the past ten years our lives have been consistently nudged by a small group of elite business people living on the west coast of Northern California. Driven by a need to maximize returns for capital investors and employee stockholders, these people stitched the disparate lives of citizens around the globe of many countries and states into expansive for-profit social networks. Now the threads tying billions of people into these social networks tug us in directions known and unknown, but primarily away from patience, presence, connection, and toward outrage, polarization and consumerism. While the effects of these trends on our individual and collective psychology have been rarely noticed and generally neglected until now, a growing movement has begun to pull back the curtain. We are angry with the manipulation, and intent on fixing it.

This podcast serially lays out in no uncertain terms the magnitude of the issue and possible paths forward. With guests who number among the most active and influential whistleblowers on this topic, it has become a comprehensive and inspiring guide to reclaiming our freedom in the digital space. Even beyond, it lays out various competing theories for constructing a socially, economically, and politically fair society that elevates human strengths instead of exploiting human weakness.

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Head Blown!

This is a powerful “marriage” of insightful questioning and deep expertise. I could feel my IQ going up. 😉

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Parallel Learning Legislation

This analytical summary shifted my consciousness. This format is so helpful. We should name and characterize this presentation format. I THINK THIS IS THE METHOD TO ENABLE PARALLEL learning and legislation. Thank You, Ben

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