What Makes You Click?

By: Daniel Mills
  • Summary

  • A series of conversations with academics, friends, pioneers and generally interesting people, hosted by veterinary behaviourist Daniel Mills
    © 2025 What Makes You Click?
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Episodes
  • Coming to Lincoln
    Feb 17 2025

    In the previous episode, we explored Becky and Craig's initial experience of seeking help for Drax, the challenges with finding a professional service and the strain associated with having a loved one with behavioural issues.

    In this episode, we look at how we tend to structure our pet behaviour service, especially with regards to identifying where clients are in relation to what is known as the Cycle of Change. This views change as a process not an event and there are several stages involved. It begins with contemplating change (before that we are in a state of precontemplation and thus not considering changing); we then need to help clients make the necessary preparations for change (e.g. developing key skills they will need) if we wish them to succeed making long-term changes; only then are they in a good state to take action (which is what most behaviour advice texts focus on); finally we need to consider the support required by clients to help them to maintian this action.

    We take this "process perspective" of change and thus do not rush into action straight away. It is important to us that clients appreciate this process and what is involved, and we recognise that this is not necessarily the way things are done by others. Our first consultation is very much focused on helping owners understand the nature of the problems they face, managing risk and laying the ground work for change. We can only help clients if we can help them build their capabilities and motivations, while enabling opportunities for them to develop the behaviours needed to help their pet. We elaborate and discuss this furtehr in this episode.

    We hope you enjoy the episide.

    #petbehaviourodysseys, #whatmakesyouclick #PBO

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    51 mins
  • Seeking help
    Feb 10 2025

    In this episode we pick up from where we finished Episode 1. We discuss in more detail the minefield that is the unregulated fields of animal training and behaviour.

    We explore Becky's and Craig's experience of seeking help from various sources for the behaviours that Drax was exhibiting. We discuss how things progressed; but more importantly, how they each felt on this part of their Odyssey.

    We highlight the stresses and strains associated with owning a pet with problem behaviour and introduce the listener to the value ofa validated ‘pet caregiver burden’ questionnaire. Milly and Daniel discuss how important this can be to us, as clinicians, in hleping us understand the nature of the stresses felt by a client, and how this can shape the focus of the assistance we give as a result. We illustrate this by discussing the results of the questionnaire which Becca completed for us. This described how she felt before coming to the Lincoln Animal Behaviour Clinic, and also how things changed as we made progress. This not only helped us, but Becca also explains how important this was to her, Craig and ultimately Drax too!

    You can read a bit more about the questionnaire here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1558787823000576

    Footnote for those seeking professional support:

    If you are in the UK and would like help with your pet’s behaviour, we encourage you to seek professional advice. A list of Certificated clinical animal behaviourists, including the presenters of this show can be found at www.ccab.uk/.

    You can also find further details of the Lincoln Animal Behaviour Clinic at animalbehaviourclinic.lincoln.ac.uk/.

    In Europe, if you want to find a veterinary behaviourist you can find a list of Diplomates (individuals who have the highest level of training available in the field) at https://www.ecawbm.org/diplomates-list.

    In North America, you can find a directory of certified applied animal behaviorists at https://www.animalbehaviorsociety.org/web/committees-applied-behavior-directory.php and board certified veterinary behaviorists at: https://www.dacvb.org/search/custom.asp?id=4709.

    #petbehaviourodysseys, #whatmakesyouclick #PBO

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    41 mins
  • The Odyssey Begins
    Feb 9 2025

    Episode 1: Welcoming a dog into your life – the Odyssey begins

    In this episode we introduce you to Becky, Craig and Drax.

    We find out how Drax came into Becky's and Craig's life, including the emotional background that so often underpins the decision to acquire a pet. We discuss their love and joy with Drax during these early days in their home, before they felt that things were not turning out quite how they had expected and hoped. Their love and commitment persisted, but the joy became tinged with sadness and frustration as they started to feel there was a problem that was seriously impacting their quality of life.

    This led them to navigating the unfamilar and unchartered territory of training and behaviour, as they tried to get professional advice and support.

    Who should they turn to for help?

    Footnote for those seeking professional support:

    If you are in the UK and would like help with your pet’s behaviour, we encourage you to seek professional advice. A list of Certificated clinical animal behaviourists, including the presenters of this show can be found at www.ccab.uk/.

    You can also find further details of the Lincoln Animal Behaviour Clinic at animalbehaviourclinic.lincoln.ac.uk/.

    In Europe, if you want to find a veterinary behaviourist you can find a list of Diplomates (individuals who have the highest level of training available in the field) at https://www.ecawbm.org/diplomates-list.

    In North America, you can find a directory of certified applied animal behaviorists at https://www.animalbehaviorsociety.org/web/committees-applied-behavior-directory.php and board certified veterinary behaviorists at: https://www.dacvb.org/search/custom.asp?id=4709.

    #petbehaviourodysseys, #whatmakesyouclick #PBO

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    36 mins

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