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Stephen Bassett is the first UFO disclosure lobbyist. He's been working to end the military truth embargo on UAP for over 20 years.

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Dr. Cifone is an accomplished philosopher of science and the founder of the Society for UAP Studies: https://www.societyforuapstudies.org/

He also edits the Society's peer-reviewed journal Limina: https://limina.uapstudies.org/

We discuss the philosophy of science, the project of approaching UAP in contemporary science, the unique challenges and opportunities it poses as a subject, and a wide array of related topics.

It's our furthest ranging and longest episode yet. We hope you enjoy!

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Andy McGrillen hosts That UFO Podcast, our favorite podcast about UFOs. We talk about ontological resilience, hypotheses for the phenomenon, and the upcoming goals of ufology.

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This audio essay is an invitation to folks who consider themselves rational thinkers. The independent intellectual community is well positioned to lead on UFOs. If you're still hesitant about engaging with this topic, I'll help you reexamine your priors with some clear, objective evidence. Please feel free to contact me on X if you'd like to chat!

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After 80 years of research, reporting and media, ufology is still a nascent field. Both professionally and personally, it has a long way to go.

Today, it faces three main goals. The first is to establish its reason for existing, which is to say convincing people it's worth investigating at all.

The second is to help people navigate the intense worldview disruptions that accompany the information that UFOs are in fact real.

The third is to explore the nature of that reality, from historical research to scientific and spiritual understanding to diplomatic and military engagement.

That can all feel overwhelming, so it helps to peel it apart a bit. We talk calmly through these three elements here to help encourage a grounded approach as we all move forward in this field together.

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We talk with Dr. Steven Brown of Ohio State University about applying philosophy to UFOs, the nature of the phenomenon, the coverup and widespread denial, converging structural challenges, and how to help people process the biggest intellectual transition in human history.

Here are some things we mention in the show:

Dr. Brown’s YouTube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/@stevenbrownphilosophy

That UFO Podcast Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qin_JjLvJDI

New Paradigm Institute
https://newparadigminstitute.org/

The Sol Foundation
https://thesolfoundation.org/

UAP Caucus
https://www.uapcaucus.com/

UAP Disclosure Fund
https://www.uapdisclosurefund.org/

Pascal’s Wager
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager

William James - The Will to Believe
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26659

Lara Buchak - Faith and Traditions
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/nous.12427

Mutually Exclusive, Collectively Exhaustive Dichotomies
https://strategyu.co/wtf-is-mece-mutually-exclusive-collectively-exhaustive/

The UAP Disclosure Act
https://www.congress.gov/amendment/118th-congress/senate-amendment/2610/text

Kevin Knuth’s Sol Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&si=0IZEkOlaOWEp1S-B&v=HlYwktOj75A

Leslie Kean - UFOs
https://amzn.to/4dPhJ6v (Amazon Affiliate Link)

Richard Dolan - UFOs and the National Security State
Part 1 https://amzn.to/3WNdn95 (Amazon Affiliate Link)
Part 2 https://amzn.to/4dH6hKa (Amazon Affiliate Link)

Nick Bostrom - Superintelligence
https://amzn.to/4cnP07O (Amazon Affiliate Link)

Thich Nhat Hanh - How to Sit
https://amzn.to/3yJLx5M (Amazon Affiliate Link)

Thomas Kuhn - The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
https://amzn.to/3X421Px (Amazon Affiliate Link)

Dean Radin - Real Magic
https://amzn.to/3Mb2iK4 (Amazon Affiliate Link)

Jacques Vallee - Passport to Magonia
https://amzn.to/4dIjsdS (Amazon Affiliate Link)

The Phenomenon Documentary
https://amzn.to/4dI5uZx (Amazon Affiliate Link)

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The logical argument that UFOs are non-human objects is extremely strong.

The very short version goes like this:

1. UFOs demonstrate advanced propulsion
2. UFOs have been doing that for 80 years
3. It's extremely unlikely that humans invented advanced propulsion in the 1940s
4. It's extremely likely that UFOs are non-human

If you'd like to read the full essay, you can check it out here: https://wtufo.com/ufo-skepticism-is-the-real-fringe-theory/

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The UFO phenomenon has huge implications for almost every field of human endeavor. We consider the biggest areas of impact.

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