This bittersweet episode (our first without Katherine 😭) dives into how leading with love 💕 can shift HR from a transactional, policy-driven function into a people-first mission that fosters connection, trust, and long-term impact.
Too often, HR is seen as the rule enforcer or the bearer of bad news, but at its core, this work is about helping people thrive—both professionally and personally. 🌱✨
I’ll be sharing real-life experiences that shaped my belief in heart-centered leadership, including times when choosing empathy over rigid enforcement led to unexpected positive outcomes.
But let’s be real—leading with love isn’t always easy.
We’ll talk about the challenges that come with it, like setting boundaries, handling resistance, and ensuring that love doesn’t mean a lack of accountability.
Most importantly, I’ll explore the mindset shifts that have helped me show up with more compassion and care, even in difficult situations.

Whether you’re an HR professional feeling disconnected from the "human" side of HR or a leader looking to build a culture rooted in kindness and respect, this episode is packed with insights and actionable strategies to help you lead with love—without losing yourself in the process. 💪💖
🎙️ Tune in, reflect, and let’s redefine HR together! 🌟

Wanna learn more about what I’ve got going on???

You’re in luck!

Here’s my info page: https://beacons.ai/jentrumm

Upcoming FREE Webinar on the 5 Trends that will help you Reignite your Love for HR on February 15 at 7am PST: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/re-kindling-the-hr-spark-5-trends-to-reignite-your-passion-tickets-1230806207499?aff=oddtdtcreator

1st of 6-part program on the delicate art of communication – Session #1 begins on Friday, 2/28 from 11am – 12pm PST: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-art-of-meaningful-conversations-tickets-1123952786039?aff=oddtdtcreator

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Episode 47 marks a bittersweet moment for Thrive and Shine HR as Katherine takes her final bow as co-host. 🎤✨ In this powerful conversation, she reflects on the journey from overwhelm to empowerment in HR, sharing insights from our 47-episode adventure together. 💡💪

Katherine opens up about the unpredictable nature of HR, reminding us that embracing uncertainty is key to personal and professional growth. 🌱💼 She also highlights the importance of mental health and adaptability in our ever-evolving roles. ❤️🧠

We also touch on upcoming workshops like HR Empower Hour and The Power of No—because setting boundaries and stepping into our power is a game-changer. 🚀

So, let’s reflect: Where can we take action today to move closer to our highest selves? 💭✨ May Katherine’s wisdom inspire you to navigate HR—and life—with confidence and clarity.

More on Katherine:

HR Empower Hour with Katherine (Weekly on Tuesdays!) Katherine takes each of our weekly Thrive & Shine HR topics and breaks them down into actionable steps to help YOU create the change you seek in your live (professionally & personally!): https://marblepeakconsulting.com/hr-empower-hour

ReFRESH App - A revolutionary app created exclusively for women in HR looking to grow, evolve and connect (created by our very own Katherine Fry!!!): https://refresh.passion.io/

Thrive and Shine HR (on Facebook):

https://www.facebook.com/groups/652482002746590

Thrive and Shine HR (on LinkedIn):

https://www.linkedin.com/company/thrive-and-shine-hr/?viewAsMember=true

#ThriveAndShineHR #HRLeadership #FromOverwhelmToEmpowerment #MentalHealthMatters #EmbraceTheJourney

🌟 Have you ever wondered what small steps you can take today to become the best version of yourself?

In "Thrive and Shine HR Episode 46," host Jen teams up with Christina King, a clinical psychologist, to explore the essential themes of mental health and mental fitness.

Jen's infectious enthusiasm sets a warm and inviting tone, making listeners feel right at home. 🎙️

Christina shares her professional journey and the impactful work she’s done with Aspen Strong, a nonprofit she created dedicated to building mental health programs within organizations. 🏢💪

Their conversation delves deep into the importance of self-compassion, empathy, and connection in mental health care. These elements are not just buzzwords; they are vital components that can transform how we approach our mental well-being. 💖

Throughout the episode, Christina's personal experiences and insights serve as a beacon of inspiration, encouraging listeners to reflect on their own lives.

She emphasizes that mental fitness is just as crucial as physical fitness, and nurturing our minds can lead to a more fulfilling life. 🧠✨

Jen and Christina discuss practical strategies for integrating mental health practices into our daily routines.

From mindfulness exercises to setting healthy boundaries, they provide actionable tips that anyone can implement. 🧘‍♀️📅

Christina highlights how connecting with others can significantly impact our mental health journey. Whether it's through friends, family, or professional networks, having a support system can make all the difference. 🤝❤️

Listeners are encouraged to embrace vulnerability and seek help when needed. Christina reminds us that asking for help is a sign of strength, not weakness.

It's a crucial step towards healing and growth. 🌱

As the conversation unfolds, Jen and Christina's wisdom leaves you feeling more self-aware and inspired. Their insights challenge us to take proactive steps in nurturing our mental health and striving for personal growth. 🌟

So, ask yourself: What actions can you take today to progress towards the highest version of yourself? 🌈✨

Don't forget to download, rate, and review the podcast to support its growth! Your feedback helps spread these important messages to a wider audience. 🎧⭐️

#MentalHealthMatters #ThriveAndShineHR #AspenStrong #SelfCompassion #MentalFitness #PodcastLove #Inspiration #GrowthJourney #CommunitySupport #MindfulnessMatters #SecureLeadership

Episode Summary

In this episode of the Thrive and Shine HR podcast, Katherine discusses the critical importance of mental health for HR professionals, sharing her personal journey of overcoming burnout and the essential mental must-haves for success in the field. She emphasizes the need for HR practitioners to prioritize their mental well-being, introduces the Fry Formula for goal setting, and explores the concept of mind management through neuroplasticity and thought upgrades. The conversation highlights the alarming statistics of burnout in HR and offers actionable insights for improving mental health in the workplace. In this conversation, Katherine Fry discusses the importance of intentional thought choices and the role of curiosity in HR practices. She emphasizes the need for HR professionals to overcome negativity bias, differentiate between motivation and inspiration, and adopt proactive mental health practices. The discussion also covers the significance of understanding emotions, the difference between victim and victor mentality, and the necessity of adult learning and application. Fry introduces The Refresh App as a tool for enhancing mental health and encourages HR professionals to embrace coaching over advising.

Top Takeaways

• Mental health is crucial for HR professionals' success.
• Burnout is a significant issue, with 98% of HR professionals affected.
• Personal experiences can shape our understanding of mental health.
• The Fry Formula helps clarify what we truly want in our careers.
• Mind management is essential for improving mental health.
• Neuroplasticity allows us to change our thought patterns.
• Thought upgrades can lead to better emotional outcomes.
• Setting meaningful goals is vital for mental well-being.
• Coaching can provide valuable support in mental health journeys.
• HR professionals must prioritize their mental health to thrive. Intentionally choosing your thoughts informs your feelings and actions.
• Meditation clears the mind, while thought upgrades are intentional.
• HR professionals must ask more questions rather than just tell.
• Negativity bias is a challenge in HR that needs addressing.
• Curiosity is a vital skill for HR success.
• Motivation is short-term; inspiration is long-term.
• Single-tasking is more effective than multitasking.
• Emotions can be experienced for only 90 seconds; choose thoughts wisely afterward.
• Understanding victim mentality is crucial for personal growth.
• Proactive mental health practices can prevent burnout.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Mental Health in HR

03:02 The Importance of Mental Health for HR Professionals

06:13 Personal Journey: Overcoming Burnout

09:09 Statistics on Burnout in HR

11:47 Defining Mental Health and Its Impact

14:50 The Five Mental Must Haves for HR Success

17:46 The Fry Formula: What Do You Truly Want?

20:46 Mind Management and Neuroplasticity

23:49 Thought Upgrades and Their Importance

41:14 Intentional Thought Choices

43:57 Overcoming Negativity Bias

46:06 Motivation vs. Inspiration in HR

48:49 The Power of Curiosity

53:00 Understanding Emotions and Thoughts

56:59 Proactive Mental Health Practices

01:00:06 Adult Learning and Application

🎙️ In this powerful and heartfelt episode, Katherine Fry and I dive deep into the transition from merely surviving to truly thriving—especially as we kick off 2025. 🌱✨

We explore the complexities of mental health, trauma, and personal growth, sharing personal stories about navigating the ups and downs of life while defining our own versions of thriving. 💛

🌟 We discuss the unique challenges women in HR face, like juggling the care of aging parents while striving to support others. 🏡💼

We highlight the importance of recognizing what we can and cannot control in our mental health journeys—and how vital authenticity and emotional honesty are in fostering growth. 🙌

💬 This episode sheds light on how organizations can create a culture where mental health conversations are normalized and encouraged.

We share practical strategies for building supportive workplaces, emphasizing the critical role of leadership buy-in for mental health initiatives to succeed. 💼❤️

🌈 Katherine and I also talk about the significance of open communication and vulnerability in cultivating community and connection. Together, we explore how HR professionals can take charge of their well-being by defining their unique paths to thriving, rather than simply surviving. 🌟✨

📣 What’s Coming Up! 🎉

Katherine is inviting you to her weekly HR Empower Hour on Tuesdays—a space to connect, grow, and learn together! 🌟

https://marblepeakconsulting.com/hr-empower-hour

Contact Katherine:

katherine@marblepeakconsulting.com

Meanwhile, Jen's thrilled to announce a 6-part series, called "The Art of Communication," launching at the end of February! 🗣️

Each session is a 60-minute deep dive into mastering communication over six months. I can’t wait to help you unlock the power of meaningful conversations! 🎉

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-art-of-meaningful-conversations-tickets-1123952745919?aff=oddtdtcreator

Contact Jen:

Jentrumm@gmail.com

👉 Tune in to this episode to start your 2025 journey toward thriving! Let’s make it a year of growth, authenticity, and prioritizing mental health. 🌱

#ThriveAndShineHR #MentalHealthMatters #WomenInHR #SurviveToThrive #CommunicationMatters #PodcastLife #HRInspiration

In this heartwarming and insightful episode of the "Thrive and Shine HR" podcast, 🌟 Jen and Katherine delve into the transformative power of reflection.

They share their personal stories and offer practical tips on how reflection can help navigate self-doubt, imposter syndrome, and limiting beliefs. 🧠✨

They emphasize that understanding our current state through reflection is crucial for setting meaningful future goals.

By incorporating reflection into your daily routine, you can unlock new levels of personal and professional growth. 🌱

Jen and Katherine discuss how reflection is not just a tool for personal development but also a powerful practice for enhancing workplace dynamics. They highlight how HR professionals can use reflection to foster a more empathetic and supportive work environment. 🤝💼

By encouraging employees to reflect, organizations can cultivate a culture of continuous improvement and innovation.

Through Jen and Katherine's wisdom, walk away more self-aware and inspired. 🎧💪

**Call-to-Action**

Ask yourself, where in your life can you take action today or in the near future to start progressing towards the highest version of yourself?

Download, rate, and review the podcast to support its growth! Your feedback helps us reach more listeners and continue providing valuable content.

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In this heartwarming and insightful episode of "Thrive and Shine HR," 🌟 hosts Jen and Katherine delve into the pervasive issue of imposter syndrome, particularly among women in high-achieving HR roles.

Through personal anecdotes and professional wisdom, they explore how imposter syndrome manifests and the societal and personal factors that contribute to it.

Katherine shares her transformative journey with coaching, highlighting how it helped her overcome self-doubt and embrace her strengths.

Jen emphasizes the importance of self-discovery and external support, noting that seeking help is a sign of strength, not weakness. 💪

Katherine recounts a pivotal moment when she realized that her fear of failure was holding her back more than any actual shortcomings. This epiphany led her to take bold steps in her career, ultimately leading to greater fulfillment and success. 🌈

Jen shares a story about a colleague who, despite her impressive track record, constantly questioned her worth. Through coaching and self-reflection, she learned to celebrate her achievements and trust her instincts. This transformation not only improved her professional life but also her personal well-being. ❤️

Jen and Katherine encourage listeners to embrace their true selves and recognize their unique contributions. They remind us that everyone experiences self-doubt, but it's how we respond to it that defines our growth.

Ask yourself today: Where can you take action to progress towards your highest self? 🌟

For HR professionals, it's crucial to recognize how the fear of being comfortable as their authentic selves may be holding them back from living deeply fulfilled lives. By confronting these fears, they can unlock their full potential and lead with confidence. 🌟

Don't miss out on this empowering episode! Download, rate, and review the podcast to support its growth and help more people discover these valuable insights. 🎧✨

#ThriveAndShineHR #ImposterSyndrome #AuthenticSelf #HRLeadership #PodcastGrowth

Check out what else we've got going on:

HR Empower Hour with Katherine (Weekly on Tuesdays!) Katherine takes each of our weekly Thrive & Shine HR topics and breaks them down into actionable steps to help YOU create the change you seek in your live (professionally & personally!): https://marblepeakconsulting.com/hr-empower-hour

ReFRESH App - A revolutionary app created exclusively for women in HR looking to grow, evolve and connect (created by our very own Katherine Fry!!!): https://refresh.passion.io/

Women of HR Support Group (on Facebook):

https://www.facebook.com/groups/652482002746590

In Episode 41 of the Thrive and Shine HR podcast, 🌟 hosts Katherine Fry and Jen Trumm dive into the all-too-common issue of burnout in the HR profession.

With warmth, authenticity, and even a touch of humor, they share personal stories and actionable insights to help listeners navigate through challenging times.

🎙️ Katherine opens up about the stress of juggling a packed week of client training, while Jen reflects on the overwhelming process of implementing a new HR payroll system.

Together, they explore how self-awareness, seeking support, and taking proactive steps can help manage stress and prevent burnout.

They also dive into the signs of burnout that often go unnoticed, like emotional exhaustion, loss of motivation, or even physical symptoms.

Jen and Katherine remind us that burnout isn’t just about overwork—it’s about the disconnection from your sense of purpose and well-being. 🌱

They share small but impactful ways to start the journey toward recovery, from creating space for rest to setting boundaries that protect your energy.

Through candid conversations and practical advice, Katherine and Jen encourage listeners to pause, reflect, and take action toward their well-being.

Their reminder?

Listen to yourself—truly listen—especially when life feels overwhelming.

Jen mentions the hilarious “Linda, Listen” video, which she’s linking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFYsJYPye94

This episode is a powerful call to reconnect with yourself, acknowledge what you need, and remember that healing opens the door to showing up more fully for yourself and those around you.

✨ Don’t forget to download, rate, and review the podcast! Your support helps us spread the message and empower more HR professionals to thrive. 💛🎧

#ThriveAndShineHR #BurnoutRecovery #HRProfessionals #WorkLifeBalance #SelfCareMatters #OvercomingBurnout #MindfulLeadership #HRCommunity

Check out what else we've got going on:

HR Empower Hour with Katherine (Weekly on Tuesdays!) Katherine takes each of our weekly Thrive & Shine HR topics and breaks them down into actionable steps to help YOU create the change you seek in your live (professionally & personally!): https://marblepeakconsulting.com/hr-empower-hour

ReFRESH App - A revolutionary app created exclusively for women in HR looking to grow, evolve and connect (created by our very own Katherine Fry!!!): https://refresh.passion.io/

Women of HR Support Group (on Facebook):

https://www.facebook.com/groups/652482002746590