In a continuation of last week's episode, Christine and Jessica discuss THE 1619 PROJECT by Nikole Hannah-Jones, the New York Times Magazine, and others, especially "Democracy" (by Hannah-Jones), "The Creation of Race" (by Dorothy Roberts), and "Sugar" (by Kahlil Gibran Muhammad). They talk about why this book is controversial, what it means for it to be a "new origin story," and the power of fuller narratives being added to our national myths. This book is a rich text--you don't want to miss a minute of this episode!

Special thanks to the entire Brooklyn Public Library team for last week's incredible Freedom to Read Rally, but especially Nick Higgins, Robin Lester-Kenton, Eliana Miller, Damaris Olivo, Fritzi Bodenheimer, and Jamar Vailes.

"The Beautiful and Banned" is produced by Jessica Goudeau and Christine Renee Miller. Follow us on social media: @beautifulandbannedpod, @christinereneemiller, and @jessica_goudeau.

Read Jessica's latest book, which she talks about in this episode and which goes well with The 1619 Project, We Were Illegal: Uncovering a Texas Family's Mythmaking and Migration.

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Join us next week as Christine and Jessica finish discussing The 1619 Project!

*Episode 9 Corrections:

• Jessica says "the snap and pop" from Legally Blonde, when the move is correctly called "the bend and snap." :)
• Once when Jessica goes off on the history of racism in America, she says the American Revolution instead of the Civil War.

Episode 9 links:

• The 1619 Project, created by Nikole Hannah-Jones and the New York Times Magazine
• Nikole Hannah-Jones
• The 1619 Project podcast from the New York Times
• The 1619 Project documentary on Hulu
• The 1619 Project curriculum from The Pulitzer Center
• One of Jessica's favorite podcasts about slavery in America: "The History of American Slavery," by Jamelle Bouie and Rebecca Onion for Slate

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In this mini-episode, Christine and Jessica have a live conversation at the Brooklyn Public Library's first ever Freedom to Read Rally at the Grand Army Plaza! On October 19, the BPL organized a nationwide rally with more than 200 libraries across the country celebrating our freedom to read. Jessica and Christine talk about The 1619 Project and the importance of allowing people to learn a more complex view of history. When they planned the discussion, they didn't realize that Nikole Hannah-Jones would be opening an exhibit on Tuesday, October 22, at the Brooklyn Public Library to show art from her latest book, The 1619 Project: A Visual Experience, which will be available till November 24, 2024: if you're in Brooklyn, you should go check it out!

"The Beautiful and Banned" is produced by Jessica Goudeau and Christine Renee Miller. Follow us on social media: @beautifulandbannedpod, @christinereneemiller, and @jessica_goudeau.

Read Jessica's latest book, which she mentions in this episode and which goes well with The 1619 Project, We Were Illegal: Uncovering a Texas Family's Mythmaking and Migration.

If you’d like to advertise with us, visit the "Contact Us" page on our website. If you liked our show, please rate and subscribe on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere you listen to podcasts. The best way to support a new podcast is to share it with your friends!

Our co-producer, Rob Heath, wrote and performed our theme music. Kalin Siegwalddesigned our logo. Steph Karpuek is our amazing podcast assistant. This is A Sisters By Different Misters Production.

Join us next week as Christine and Jessica discuss more of The 1619 Project!

Episode 8 links:

• More about the Freedom to Read Day of Action (support these libraries!)
• The 1619 Project, created by Nikole Hannah-Jones and the New York Times Magazine
• Nikole Hannah-Jones
• The 1619 Project: A Visual Experience (the book)
• The 1619 Project: A Visual Experience (the exhibition at the Brooklyn Public Library)

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ON SATURDAY, OCT. 19, JOIN CHRISTINE AND JESSICA AT THE BROOKLYN PUBLIC LIBRARY! Stay tuned for the end of the episode for all the details about Saturday's "Freedom to Read Day of Action Rally," and see if one of the other 300 events that day throughout the country is happening near you!

This episode is a little different: inspired by last week's episode with Courtney Gore, Jessica tells Christine about "The Mind Polluters," a documentary that originally inspired Gore's path to joining the Granbury ISD school board, where she found that there was not, in fact, an insidious plot lurking in public schools threatening kids--and changed her mind. Taking the advice of friend of the pod, Maureen Corrigan, who talked this summer about the value of actually engaging with the things you might disagree with, Jessica learned so much about how we reached the point as a society where "Social and Emotional Learning" is viewed as a dirty word and librarians are being yelled at for being "groomers"--this discussion is a RIDE.

"The Beautiful and Banned" is produced by Jessica Goudeau and Christine Renee Miller. Follow us on social media: @beautifulandbannedpod, @christinereneemiller, and @jessica_goudeau.

If you’d like to advertise with us, visit the "Contact Us" page on our website. If you liked our show, please rate and subscribe on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere you listen to podcasts. The best way to support a new podcast is to share it with your friends!

Our co-producer, Rob Heath, wrote and performed our theme music. Kalin Siegwalddesigned our logo. Steph Karpuek is our amazing podcast assistant. This is A Sisters By Different Misters Production.

Join us next week as Christine and Jessica read The 1619 Project!

Episode 7 links:

• "The Mind Polluters," by Mark and Amber Archer of Fearless Features (we are not suggesting you watch it, but it's there if you want to see for yourself for $4.99!)
• Mark Archer's IMDB page
• The actual history of Social and Emotional Learning
• The Leader in Me by Stephen Covey (featured in the film)
• Information about Alfred Kinsey (featured in the film)
• Further reading about sowing distrust in public schools from ProPublica

We'd love to hear from you! Send us a text to suggest books, plays, films, or guests, or just share your thoughts!