Stony Road

By: Robert Bushey & Shannon Swilley
  • Summary

  • A Podcast about Then and Now featuring educator Shannon Swilley & minister Rev. Robert Bushey, Jr. Whenever we discover what history has to offer it grounds us. We appreciate the opportunity to be connected to all that has come before us and all that will follow. We want this podcast to serve as a model for connecting the dots backwards as a means to bringing light and understanding to our current conversations about race and racial identity in America.
    © 2025 Stony Road
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Episodes
  • Settler Colonialism, Resistance and Peyote Politics with Dr. Lisa Barnett
    Jan 29 2025

    In November 2024, we were joined by the Rev. Dr. Lisa Barnett, Assistant Professor of American Religious History at Phillips Theological Seminary in Tulsa, OK. Our conversation explored the impact of settler colonialism on Native Americans, connecting with the lived experiences of American Indian people today, and how we honor the history of indigenous people and move forward together.

    Our Guest for this episode:
    Dr. Lisa Barnett earned her PhD in U.S. History at Texas Christian University in 2017, a Master of Theology in American Religious History from Brite Divinity School in Fort Worth, Texas in 2012 and her Master of Divinity Degree in 2008. Dr. Barnett is an ordained minister in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). She is the author of Peyote Politics: The Making of the Native American Church published by University of Oklahoma Press, 2025.

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    30 mins
  • Saying the Quiet Part Out Loud
    Feb 14 2023

    In this episode we explore the value of being culturally competent and sensitive at this moment in history. Our guest, Dr. Cynthia Taylor shares her experience working with the Cultural Competency Work Group of a local nonprofit, Project SUN of Kankakee County. Dr Taylor is the Director of Multi-Ethnic Student Services at Olivet Nazarene University in Bourbonnais, Illinois and is a professional mental health provider as well.
    During the episode, Robert and Shannon share in conversation about current dialogue concerning racial equity in our nation. Usually when we hear the phrase, "saying the quiet part out loud," reference is being made to overt racist language spoken by some popular or notable white person. In our episode, we explore the growing culture of white supremacy that is suppressing the language of racial equity in our midst.

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    55 mins
  • A History of Trauma on Black Bodies and White Body Supremacy
    Jan 23 2022

    In this episode we will be exploring the historical patterns of trauma on black bodies and white body supremacy in America. Black bodies have been labeled and treated differently from white bodies by everything from medicine to education, entertainment, civil and criminal law, and law enforcement throughout America’s history. This episode was Inspired in part by two books, Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates and My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies by Resmaa Menakem.



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    1 hr and 23 mins

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