At the very start of the conversation, Steve extends an invitation to a trip he is leading to Israel this November (details provided below). He then introduces the topic of the day: the kingdom that Jesus establishes at His second coming. A key aspect of this 1,000-year period is that Satan is bound. Some interpret this millennium literally, while others see it as figurative. Rich also emphasizes that one’s interpretation of these passages largely depends on their overall view of the Bible and the end times—something discussed in depth in episode 80. Steve references Old Testament passages that support what is described in Revelation 20. There is so much to anticipate during this time, yet it’s important to recognize that it is not the final, complete heaven—that is something entirely separate. Rich and Steve also reflect on how many people long for peace and propose political solutions, but ultimately, true and lasting peace can only come through Jesus, the Prince of Peace.

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This week, Steve and Rich take another deep dive into a previously covered topic: the Judgment Seat of Christ—an area many believers still wrestle with. Right from the start, Steve clarifies an important truth: believers will not stand before Christ to give an account for their sin, but rather for how they lived their lives. One key aspect of this judgment is the opportunity for believers to receive rewards based on their faithfulness. Rich highlights passages such as 2 Corinthians 5, 1 Corinthians 3, and Romans 14 to unpack this concept, emphasizing that the Judgment Seat of Christ is not about salvation or entry into heaven, but about reward. Jesus frequently referenced this idea in His parables, underscoring the importance of living in alignment with truth and being a good steward of what God has entrusted to us. With this in mind, Rich urges believers to recognize that the life lived between salvation and Christ’s return truly matters. Steve adds that the ultimate motivation should be hearing the words of Jesus: “Well done, good and faithful servant.”

Check out episode 44 for more discussion on the judgement seat of Christ on Resident Strangers

The Now Life podcast

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Today’s episode kicks off with some exciting updates about what’s ahead for Resident Strangers—big things are coming, and you’ll literally see them soon! Sarah and Rich also take a moment to celebrate a huge milestone: Steve’s 30 years of ministry at Desert Springs. Considering the average tenure of a pastor at a single church is less than five years, this is truly remarkable. Steve and his wife, Tami, have been an incredible blessing, and we’re grateful for all that’s ahead in their ministry. After that, Rich and Steve dive into today’s topic—the second coming of Christ. Steve encourages listeners to read through Revelation 19 for a deeper understanding of the events surrounding His return. He also points out that when Jesus first came, many were confused because they expected Him to establish a new kingdom immediately. However, that kingdom will come with His second coming. Rich makes an interesting connection, noting that believers today may feel the same anticipation as those in Jesus’ time, eagerly awaiting His arrival. This should inspire us to live ready and expectant for Christ’s return. As always, Steve and Rich bring plenty of scripture to support their discussion, reminding us that the second coming of Christ is a reason for great joy and excitement. While Jesus has not yet arrived on the white horse, He stands with open arms, ready to embrace all who come to Him by faith.

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30th Anniversary Celebration for Pastor Steve + Tami (February 16th)

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“Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear and keep what is written in it, for the time is near.” — Revelation 1:3

Welcome back to another deep dive on Resident Strangers! The tribulation is a period of judgment on the earth, preparing the way for the coming kingdom of Jesus. How one understands this event largely depends on how the book of Revelation is read and interpreted. In this episode, Rich breaks down four key perspectives on the tribulation—the historicist, preterist, idealist, and futurist views (explained below). Steve connects Revelation to the book of Daniel, showing how the two come together to reveal God’s plan. He also highlights a significant prophetic marker: Israel’s reestablishment as a nation in 1948, a fulfillment of Ezekiel’s prophecy and a sign that we are living in the final days. The conversation also explores the various judgments described in Revelation, painting a vivid picture of Christ’s second coming. Beyond these events, Jesus makes it clear that the end will not come until the gospel has been preached to all nations, leading to a great harvest of souls. Understanding Revelation—and the Bible as a whole—requires discerning when Scripture speaks figuratively and when it speaks plainly. This distinction is crucial for sound interpretation. Ultimately, as Rich reminds us, this knowledge isn’t just for study—it should compel us to live on mission, sharing who Jesus is and what awaits those who put their faith in Him.

•Historicist View – Interprets Revelation as a record of historical events, specifically the history of the Western Church rather than history in general.

•Preterist View – Argues that everything in Revelation has already taken place, culminating in the destruction of the temple in 70 AD.

•Idealist View – Sees Revelation as entirely symbolic, representing timeless spiritual truths rather than specific historical events.

•Futurist View – Understands Revelation as a prophecy of future events yet to unfold.

Check out episodes 20, 21, 78 + 79 for more discussion on the rapture and the tribulation on Resident Strangers

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Steve, Rich, and Sarah are back this week with another in-depth discussion on the rapture. After a brief catch-up on life, Steve revisits the three major perspectives on when the rapture will occur—post-tribulation, mid-tribulation, and pre-tribulation (explained below). He emphasizes that while the view one holds is important, it does not necessarily rank among the most critical theological issues. Daniel 9 serves as a key reference for understanding the tribulation and God’s intended audience, with Rich contributing additional passages and perspectives to further support the discussion. Both Steve and Rich agree that Jesus could return at any moment; however, they point out that the perspective one holds on the rapture influences whether or not that belief aligns with their understanding. Different views also shape the sense of hope associated with Christ’s return. Rich concludes by reminding believers of the significance of these discussions. He highlights that the anticipation of Jesus’ imminent return offers encouragement to live with purpose, remain steadfast in faith, and endure challenges with perseverance.

Post-tribulation view - believers go through the entire time of the tribulation and the resurrection and rapture are combined as Jesus returns

Mid-tribulation view - believers go through about 3.5 years of the tribulation with the calling of the Two Witnesses being considered the midpoint (can also be called pre-wrath)

Pre-tribulation view - Jesus returns for the church prior to the tribulation

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On today’s episode of Resident Strangers, Steve and Rich take a deeper dive into the topic of the rapture, which they previously touched on while exploring the Desert Springs doctrinal statement. They address common skepticism, noting that while the word rapture doesn’t appear in the Bible, its concept is supported by Scripture—Steve points to John 14 as Jesus’ first mention of it. Many believers experience fear surrounding the rapture, but Steve reminds us that it is meant to be “our blessed hope,” not a source of anxiety. He emphasizes the Christian perspective as a two-world view—this world is not our home; we live for the one to come. Rich also discusses alternative theories that challenge the rapture, offering a broader understanding of the topic. There’s a lot packed into this episode, and we hope it brings both clarity and excitement for the return of Jesus!

Check out episodes 20 + 21 for more discussion on the Rapture on Resident Strangers

Desert Springs' Doctrinal Statement

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Why is it so important for a believer to be in the Word? There are four main reasons that Steve and Rich break down today to bolster the imperativeness of Christians studying the Bible. Scripture can and should dictate what we believe and how we communicate what we believe. If the Bible is viewed as the final authority for life, then why do so many Christians not know or understand how to study it? Even with how vast scripture can appear God is incredibly clear in His Word and does not leave us with riddles or codes to try and understand. There are passages and pieces that are difficult to understand but it does not mean that it is not knowable. Context is king when studying. Before we can know what scripture means we have to know what it says. All of these thoughts just point to how necessary the Bible is. The fact is God cannot be known without studying His Word. Romans 1 is a great passage to support this. The Bible is all we need to know about God - what we need to know is revealed in scripture.

Important Characteristics of Scripture:
Authority
Clarity
Necessity
Sufficiency

Check out episodes 2, 3, 51, 52, and 54 to hear more discussion about the Bible on Resident Strangers

e-Sword (Bible study resource mentioned by Steve)

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Happy New Year! Steve, Rich and Sarah are back in the studio and are looking forward to this new year. Steve begins by encouraging all of us to put some plans together for this year, specifically in the area of spiritual disciplines. These are things that can be looked at on the micro and macro level. Spiritual disciplines are arguably the most important things to focus on not just in the new year but each day! A good place to start would be thinking through how to be a better student of God's word. Rich gets personal and shares about his study of the Bible has shared in the last six years. A major goal Steve encourages is making it a goal to read through the entire Bible in 2025. Being only a week into the new year there is still plenty of time to start! Another approach to take would be committing to study one book of the Bible for several months to really dig into all the layers. The conversation then shifts slightly as Rich emphasizes the importance of not just being in the Word but being in the church with God's people. It is so important to understand that it will take work and commitment but that it is more than worth it. Rich, Steve and Sarah all give practical tips on how to dive deeper into a church community. Make 2025 a year that you grow deeper with the Lord and His people!

Kelly Lashua's testimony on The Stories Collective, Episode 22

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