In this episode of the Reconstructing Inclusion Podcast, host Amri Johnson interviews Raquel Ark, an expert on the art and science of listening. They discuss the importance of listening for diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), and how it can be practiced and improved upon both personally and professionally. Raquel shares insights into her background, growing up between cultures, and how it shaped her understanding of different perspectives and listening. She highlights the experiences that led her to focus on listening, including her work in corporate communications and facilitation. The conversation delves into practical aspects of listening, such as creating 'listening playgrounds,' understanding listening as episodic, and the interdependence of speakers and listeners. Raquel emphasizes the role of listening in high-stakes situations, the need for humility, and the impact of listening on building trust and effective communication. The episode concludes with recommendations for structuring meetings to facilitate better listening and the transformative potential of listening for DEI initiatives. Timestamps00:22 Raquel Ark: A Listening Expert03:15 Raquel's Personal and Professional Journey07:13 The Art and Science of Listening18:34 Listening Beyond Words: Email as a Listening Space23:17 Exploring Listening Playgrounds26:39 The Power of Experiential Learning in Listening27:42 The Science Behind Effective Listening28:25 Interdependence in Communication29:07 Practical Tips for Enhancing Listening Skills29:53 Understanding Listening as an Episodic Process37:17 The Role of Listening in High-Stakes Situations45:23 Practicing Listening for Better Communication45:45 Structuring Meetings for Effective Listening48:02 Conclusion: The Importance of Listening in DEI About the GuestRaquel Ark, MA, CPC, is a podcast host, speaker, mentor, coach and trainer. She has over 25 years of experience in multinational corporations, start-ups, and academia. She is the Founder of listening ALCHEMY, a communication training and coaching organisation including evidence-based listening programs. She is the podcast host of the "listening SUPERPOWER" podcast focused on listening in teams and organisations beyond what we typically consider. She co-authored a best-selling book, "Redefining The Rules” and spoke on the TedX stage. She is the President of the International Listening Association and a university instructor at Fresenius University of Applied Sciences in Germany.You can connect with Raquel at:Email: raquel@raquelark.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raquel-ark-b2067613/Website: https://listeningalchemy.com/ About the HostAs CEO/Founder of Inclusion Wins, Amri B. Johnson and a virtual collective of partners converge organizational purpose to create global impact with a lens of inclusion.His theory of change is focused on building ‘Inclusion Systems.’ Inclusion systems provide direction and momentum in the complexity of organizations that allow them to be antifragile—leaning into and engaging with resistance, stressors, disruptions, and disequilibrium and being stronger as a result of such engagement.His book, Reconstructing Inclusion: Making DEI Accessible, Actionable, and Sustainable outlines how organizations can create inclusion-normative cultures and build approaches to DEI that are designed for and with everyone, unambiguously prioritized, and purpose-aligned.Born in Topeka, Kansas (USA), Amri has worked and lived in the U.S., Brazil, and currently lives in Basel, Switzerland, with his wife Martina and their three kids. Your support means a lot!Like this episode? We'd greatly appreciate it if you could take a moment to write a review, even if it's just one sentence!Grab a copy of Reconstructing Inclusion: Making DEI Accessible, Actionable, and Sustainable: https://amzn.to/45AYFFPSign up for the Reconstructing Inclusion newsletter on Substack: https://reconstructinginclusion.substack.com/Connect with Amri on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amrijohnson/Let's discuss where your inclusion policies are effective and how to overcome challenges by creating an Inclusion System. > https://inclusionwins.com/contact This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit reconstructinginclusion.substack.com/subscribe