Journey back in time with us to November 2023, when we had our first ever live show at Caveat NYC! We hope you enjoy our discussion of Wishbone, bowl cuts, bow ties, and brackets.

View the slide deck from our show here.

Next Episode: March 2024 Live Show at The Ripped Bodice

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Today, we're covering the original ending of Persuasion, otherwise known as the "Cancelled Chapters." The original Volume 2, Chapter 10 replaces the Chapters 10 and 11 that we ended up with, and the original Chapter 11 is essentially the same as our Chapter 12. The Cancelled Chapters were published posthumously.

Anne has just found out Elliot's true nature when she runs into Admiral Croft, who locks her in a room with Wentworth after begging Wentworth to talk to Anne on his behalf. Wentworth reveals that the Crofts are concerned that Anne and Elliot are going to take Kellynch back when they get married. Anne tells him that she and Elliot are not going to be married, and the rest is history.

Read the Cancelled Chapters here.

Glossary of Terms and Phrases:

mantua-maker (n): a dressmaker who created fitted women's clothing before mass-produced clothing.

Glossary of People, Places, and Things: Better Call Saul, Breaking Bad

Patron Study Questions:

Avi: Why do you think Jane Austen discarded this ending? Did her family do her a service or disservice by bringing it to light?

Katrine: How do the two endings differ emotionally — and what do they tell us about the love between Anne and Wentworth? 🤍

Quote: "No truth in any part of it?" or "I cannot stay, because I must go to the P. Office, but if you will only sit down for 5 minutes I am sure Sophy will come--and you will find nobody to disturb you--there is nobody but Frederick here--" opening the door as he spoke.--Such a person to be passed over as a Nobody to her!"

Who wins the chapter? Admiral Croft

Next Episode: November 2023 Live Show - Wishbone

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We made it to the final chapter of Persuasion! Anne and Wentworth face no opposition from Anne's family, Lady Russell admits she was wrong, and Mary takes credit for the match. Mr. Elliot and Mrs. Clay run off together, and Wentworth helps Mrs. Smith sell her husband's estate in the West Indies.

Glossary of People, Places, and Things: Moana, Sex and the City, Wuthering Heights, I Will Always Love You, Happier, The One That Got Away, The Good Witch, I Can Do It With A Broken Heart, Cornelia Street, Back to December, Anne Elliot's Sad Girl Playlist.

Patron Study Questions:

Megan: What 3 songs are definitely on Anne’s breakup playlist?

Katrine: Aside from Anne & Wentworth — do the other people in the novel get a happy ending? Think of Mrs Clay and Louisa, will they be happy in life or have they potentially made a mistake in choosing a partner? Similarly with Elizabeth and Sit Walter — is happiness in their future?

Avi: Who changed more in the course of the novel, Anne or Wentworth?

Becca's Study Questions: Topics discussed include who would be worse to be married to out of Sir Walter and Mr. Elliot, why Austen put Elliot and Mrs. Clay together, what it does to the story to have a happy ending, convenient vs. inconvenient love.

Quote: "Of all the family, Mary was probably the one most immediately gratified by the circumstance. It was creditable to have a sister married, and she might flatter herself with having been greatly instrumental to the connexion, by keeping Anne with her in the autumn."

Who wins the book? Anne

Next Episode: Alternate Ending

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IT'S LETTER DAY! It's 2 PM before the soirée! Anne and Harville discuss women's vs. men's constancy, Wentworth writes Anne a kicker of a letter, and they FINALLY talk about their feelings for each other.

Topics discussed include internal panic, Wentworth's attempts to attach himself to Louisa, whether Anne was right to be persuaded by Lady Russell, Wentworth's pride, and whether hazelnuts poop Nutella.

Glossary of Terms and Phrases:

innoxious (adj.): having no adverse effect. innocuous. not injurious to physical or mental health.

Glossary of People, Places, and Things: The Notebook, Amanda Fagan - Half Agony, Half Hope, Veronica Mars, The Good Place, How I Met Your Mother, Spongebob, Kacey Musgraves - Happy & Sad, Beyonce

Patron Study Questions:

Adrianna: How does the conversation between Anne and Harville resemble the hazelnut conversation from earlier in the novel, and does this parallel show the development of Anne, Wentworth, and their relationship?

Avi: In this chapter, there is a discussion between Anne and Captain Harville about the feelings of men versus women. From this discussion, and from the other books you have read, what do you think Jane Austen is saying about the perception of women in her society?

Ghenet: OH BABY THIS CHAPTER! 1. What does Mrs. Croft and Mrs. Musgrove’s conversation about engagements show us about society and about Anne and Wentworth, their feelings and their own engagement? Why does this conversation get them so in their feels? 2. Where does the ‘half agony half hope’ proposal rank for you in other main character proposals from the books you’ve read so far (ie Edward, Darcy, Knightley etc)!

Anna: If Mrs. Croft represents the best case scenario for what Anne's life would have been if she'd married Wentworth all those years ago, Mrs. Smith in many ways represents the worst-case scenario (widowed with no income, cut off from helpful connections, etc.). Does seeing both outcomes affect your opinion on Anne's original decision all those years ago? How do you think that affect's Anne's ultimate opinion on her actions?

Becca's Study Questions: Topics discussed include Austen's beliefs on constancy and moving on, the letter's role in the story, Wentworth's heartbreak playlist and his journey through the book.

Quote: "I am half agony, half hope."

Questions Moving Forward: What will Anne's family say? What will happen with Elliot and Mrs. Smith?

Who wins the chapters? WENTWORTH

Next Episode: Volume 2 Chapter 12 / Chapter 24

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It's the day of the concert! Anne and Wentworth finally get a chance to talk. Anne is CERTAIN that Wentworth loves her, Mr. Elliot makes his intentions clear, Captain Wentworth is JEALOUS, and Molly is shipping Elliot and Anne.

Topics discussed include some clarification on marriage rules, the possibility of recovering from a broken heart, whomst Elliot's friend might be, why Elliot's proposal is a surprise, and whether Anne would accept if Wentworth proposed now.

Glossary of Terms and Phrases:

contiguous (adj.): next or together in sequence.

Glossary of People, Places, and Things: Revenge of the Sith Opera House, the Bolshoi, Curb Your Enthusiasm

Patron Study Questions:

Avi: In this chapter Wentworth offers Anne his umbrella. Do you think this is something he would have done earlier in the book? What does that signify about Wentworth and his own journey?

Ghenet: What do you think Anne and Wentworth’s conversation (about Lyme, about Benwick and Louisa etc) tells us about what he’s feeling (not just what Anne thinks he’s feeling - is she a reliable narrator in this moment?)

Becca's Study Questions: Topics discussed include what would change is Wentworth professed his love to Anne, Sir Walter's opinion of Wentworth, how Elliot has heard of Anne before and whether he knew she was coming to Bath, and whose team we're on.

Funniest Quote: “Yes, yes, I see you are. I see you know nothing of the matter. You have only knowledge enough of the language to translate at sight these inverted, transposed, curtailed Italian lines, into clear, comprehensible, elegant English. You need not say anything more of your ignorance. Here is complete proof.”

Questions Moving Forward: Why did Elliot come to Bath? If Wentworth proposed to Anne now, would she accept?

Who wins the chapters? Mr. Elliot

Next Episode: Volume 2 Chapter 9

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WE HAVE A PROPOSAL! Louisa and Benwick are in love and the Crofts come to Bath. Who else comes to Bath? WENTWORTH! Anne runs into him in a shop and he offers her his umbrella. Steamy. Plus, she and Lady Russell pass him in the street.

Topics discussed include what the heck happened between Wentworth and Louisa, grumpy/sunshine pairings, men in mourning, Gay Street, Mrs. Clay's potential ulterior motives, Elizabeth's shunning of Wentworth, Wentworth's jealousy, well-hung curtains, and our band kid days.

Glossary of Terms and Phrases:

chair (n): A portable chair with a detachable roof, carried by two men.

descried (v): caught sight of

Glossary of People, Places, and Things: Eponine, The Holiday, House in the Cerulean Sea

Patron Study Questions:

Avi: Earlier in the book Wentworth, clearly thinking of Anne, told Louisa that he liked firm characters. Now Louisa has changed her affection to Benwick. What do you think Wentworth’s reaction will be?

Ghenet: 1. Why do you think Louisa and Captain Benwick fell in love with each other? 2. We see Anne with members of the upper class and members of the lower class (by the Elliots’ standards) but where is it that you think Anne is most comfortable and most herself?

Emily: What point is Anne making about Benwick's character when talking about his change of heart, and is she doing him justice?

Becca's Study Questions: Topics discussed include the purpose widowers play in this story, what's shifted between Anne and Wentworth, Bath as a setting for their meeting.

Funniest Quote: "Anne sighed and blushed and smiled, in pity and disdain, either at her friend or herself. The part which provoked her most, was that in all this waste of foresight and caution, she should have lost the right moment for seeing whether he saw them."

Questions Moving Forward: What happened with Wentworth and Louisa? What will happen at the concert?

Who wins the chapters? Anne and Wentworth

Next Episode: Volume 2 Chapter 8

Our show art was created by Torrence Browne, and our audio is produced by Graham Cook. For bios and transcripts, check out our website at podandprejudice.com. Pod and Prejudice is transcribed by speechdocs.com. To support the show, check out our Patreon!

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