• Episode 174 - Ethical Decision Making
    Mar 7 2025

    The podcast episode discusses the relationship between ethical decision-making and workplace safety. Hosted by Dr. Mark French, the episode explores how distance from the work environment affects ethical judgment in safety-related decisions.

    Dr. French references an article from the Journal of Applied Psychology (February 2025) titled Out of Sight, Out of Mind: How High-Level Controls Can Decrease the Ethical Framing of Risk-Mitigating Behavior. The research highlights how individuals making safety decisions—often executives or managers—tend to underestimate workplace risks when they are physically removed from the job site. This detachment leads to decisions that may prioritize cost and productivity over worker safety.

    The discussion emphasizes how safety professionals frequently face ethical dilemmas, such as choosing between enforcing safety measures and aligning with corporate expectations. Dr. French underscores the challenge of instilling ethical behavior, noting that while organizations can promote accountability and structured procedures, individuals ultimately make their own ethical choices.

    He provides examples of how ethical misjudgments have led to real-world safety failures, citing an incident where a supervisor disregarded a stop-work order, leading to worker fatalities. He stresses the importance of leadership engagement—actively seeing and understanding workplace conditions—to ensure informed safety decisions.

    Drawing from quality management principles like Six Sigma and Toyota’s Gemba method, he advocates for leaders to observe work environments directly, rather than making abstract, detached decisions. The episode concludes with an invitation to the Tennessee Safety Conference in April, where Dr. French will discuss integrating values into organizational safety culture.

    The key takeaway: ethical safety decisions improve when leaders engage directly with frontline work, reinforcing a culture where employees feel empowered to prioritize safety without fear of retaliation.

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  • Episode 173 - Mental Health and Safety
    Feb 14 2025

    In this episode of Leading and Learning Through Safety, Dr. Mark French explores mental health as a workplace issue, sparked by a Professional Safety Journal article on mental health and suicide in construction. He emphasizes that while work doesn’t necessarily cause mental health struggles, it can be a significant stressor, with leadership, culture, and supervision playing key roles in employee well-being.

    A major insight is that direct supervisors can influence employees’ mental health as much as their family members. Poor leadership can create a toxic environment, while supportive leadership can foster well-being. The episode challenges the common “blame-the-worker” approach to safety incidents, arguing that mental health issues often contribute to distraction and errors.

    Access to mental health resources remains a challenge, with employees facing stigma, unresponsive EAP programs, and difficulty finding suitable providers. However, survey findings from the construction industry were not as negative as expected, indicating some progress in workplace mental health initiatives.

    Dr. French expresses optimism about increasing employer investment in mental health resources, as seen at HR and safety conferences. He calls for varied, adaptable approaches to mental health support, ensuring employees feel safe discussing their struggles. Ultimately, fostering a strong workplace culture that prioritizes mental health alongside physical safety is essential for employee well-being and overall organizational success.

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  • Episode 172 - Abolishing OSHA
    Feb 7 2025

    The podcast episode discusses a legislative proposal to abolish OSHA, introduced by an Arizona Congressman who argues that workplace safety should be managed by states and private employers rather than the federal government. However, similar efforts in the past have failed, and the speaker believes this attempt is unlikely to gain traction. OSHA plays a crucial role in setting, educating on, and enforcing safety laws, though compliance alone does not guarantee workplace safety. Currently, 22 states operate their own OSHA-approved programs, with varying degrees of success. The discussion highlights that ethical companies view OSHA as a baseline but strive to go beyond compliance by embedding safety into their workplace culture. In contrast, some businesses only implement safety measures due to legal or financial consequences, such as insurance claims and liability costs. The speaker emphasizes that true workplace safety is not just about following laws but fostering a culture where leadership values and prioritizes employee well-being. While the abolition of OSHA is unlikely, the broader challenge remains in ensuring that all organizations, especially those with little regard for safety, are held accountable.














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  • Episode 171 - Managing Change
    Jan 31 2025

    This episode focuses on managing organizational change, particularly in the context of safety. Key points include:

    1. Nature of Change: Change is inevitable and often disruptive. Effective leadership is crucial in managing, implementing, and measuring change.
    2. Safety as a Moral Imperative: Safety-related changes should be the easiest to implement, as they address a universal priority—protecting human life. Organizations must clearly communicate the "why" behind safety changes to gain team support.
    3. Organizational Nostalgia: Reflecting on past positive experiences can strengthen team cohesion and organizational commitment, even during disruptive changes.
    4. Motivating Teams: Leaders should understand their audience, identify who is affected by and responsible for changes, and tailor communication to explain the necessity and benefits of the change.
    5. Change Resistance: Resistance to change is common, especially if it disrupts established workflows. Leadership should focus on demonstrating the long-term benefits, such as improved safety and efficiency, to overcome initial pushback.
    6. Leadership in Change Management: Leaders should start with safety changes to build momentum and learn strategies for managing disruptions. Success in safety initiatives can serve as a foundation for implementing other types of organizational changes.

    The podcast emphasizes that managing change effectively requires a balance of strong communication, empathy, and a clear focus on shared goals.

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  • Episode 170 - Preventing All Injuries
    Jan 24 2025

    This week's podcast focuses on workplace safety, particularly on whether all accidents and injuries are preventable. Key points include:

    1. Safety Philosophy:
      • Initially, Dr. French believed all injuries could be prevented, especially in controlled environments like factories. However, his view has evolved to recognize that while striving for zero injuries is noble, some risks, particularly in public and uncontrolled environments, might be unavoidable.
    2. Hierarchy of Controls:
      • Emphasis on using elimination, substitution, and engineering controls to reduce risks within an organization's sphere of influence.
      • Examples include better equipment, safer driving policies, and training.
    3. Public Risk Challenges:
      • Dr. French shares examples of safety challenges in public spaces, such as commuting accidents, where some factors remain uncontrollable.
    4. Cultural Shift:
      • Transitioning from an "all-or-nothing" mindset to focusing on mitigating risks wherever possible rather than achieving perfection.
    5. Real-life Examples:
      • Stories of workplace fatalities and public incidents highlight the importance of proactive safety measures and awareness.

    The overarching message is the shared responsibility for safety and the need for leaders to actively work towards reducing risks in controllable ways while recognizing limitations.

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  • Episode 169 - 2025 Predictions
    Jan 17 2025

    The episode discusses anticipated trends in 2025 across leadership, HR, safety, and psychology. Key points include:

    1. Shift in Hiring Practices: A move from valuing degrees to prioritizing skills, with organizations increasingly using AI to screen candidates. While this improves efficiency, concerns are raised about the loss of human judgment in hiring decisions.
    2. Skill Development: The importance of evolving skills in the workplace and integrating training into employee development strategies.
    3. AI in Talent Strategy and Safety: Widespread use of AI for developing job descriptions, customizing screenings, and summarizing workplace discussions. AI's role in creating safer and more efficient workplaces is emphasized, alongside ethical considerations like privacy.
    4. Psychological Applications of Technology: Innovations like transcription tools in clinical psychology highlight the potential and challenges of balancing technological benefits with privacy concerns.
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  • Episode 168 - Welcoming the New Year
    Jan 10 2025

    OSHA’s Top 10 Cited Violations for 2024:

    • Frequent safety issues such as fall protection, hazard communication, ladders, respiratory protection, lockout/tagout, powered industrial trucks, scaffolding, PPE, and machine guarding.
    • The importance of addressing these life-critical hazards to prevent injuries and fatalities.

    Leadership and Safety:

    • Emphasis on the role of safety as a cornerstone of effective leadership.
    • Connecting physical safety to psychological safety to foster better team morale and trust.

    Emerging Trends in Workplace Safety:

    • Insights from the American Psychological Association on 2025 trends, highlighting workplace tension related to hybrid/remote models and the growing gap between management and employees.
    • Increasing unionization as employees seek to address safety and workplace concerns collectively.

    Call to Action for Leaders:

    • Encouragement for leaders to prioritize listening to their teams, especially on safety issues, to build trust and create a safer, more empathetic work environment.
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  • Episode 167 - Going Beyond
    Nov 29 2024

    The podcast episode focuses on a catastrophic explosion at a food additive manufacturing site in Louisville, Kentucky. The explosion was attributed to the failure of a ventilation system on a cooker, leading to overheating, overpressurization, and a subsequent explosion. The event caused significant community damage, including shattered windows and structural harm, injured 10-12 people, and claimed two lives. Notably, one victim was initially unaccounted for due to a clerical error during the emergency evacuation, raising questions about the company’s emergency management protocols.

    The discussion highlights systemic failures in safety leadership and engineering risk management. The organization, already familiar to OSHA, may not have implemented Process Safety Management (PSM) standards, which could have mitigated risks. Questions are raised about preventative maintenance, predictive engineering, and redundancy systems to prevent such incidents. The lack of alarms or fail-safes and the apparent high tolerance for risk are cited as critical oversights.

    The podcast emphasizes the importance of proactive leadership in safety culture. It critiques the company’s slow response to the community's concerns and contrasts OSHA compliance with going beyond minimum standards to prioritize worker and community safety. The host reflects on the engineering decisions and leadership deficiencies leading to this tragedy, urging organizations to adopt robust safety practices and foster a culture that values risk management and human dignity.

    Ultimately, the incident serves as a stark reminder of the consequences of inadequate safety protocols and the need for comprehensive risk assessment to prevent similar catastrophic events.

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