Law and Chaos

By: Liz Dye
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  • Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.
    2024
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Political Science Politics & Government
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Episodes
  • Ep 126 — SCOTUS Decides Maybe There Is Something In The Constitution About Due Process After All

    Ep 126 — SCOTUS Decides Maybe There Is Something In The Constitution About Due Process After All
    Apr 22 2025

    The Trump administration spent the weekend trying hard to rendition immigrants to foreign gulags. But Supreme Court took some baby steps this weekend toward maybe possibly doing their damn jobs and ensuring that the rule of law survives. And in the biggest surprise since the stock market dropping like a rock on news of crippling tariffs on China, Pete Hegseth is texting war plans AGAIN. And for subscribers, Harvard University sues the Trump administration.



    Links:

    D.V.D. v. Homeland Security (Notice of Removal to Third Country) [Docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69775896/dvd-v-us-department-of-homeland-security/

    AFGE, AFL-CIO v. Office of Personnel Management [Docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69655364/american-federation-of-government-employees-afl-cio-v-united-states/

    President and Fellows of Harvard College v. US Department of Health and Human Services

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69921962/president-and-fellows-of-harvard-college-v-us-department-of-health-and/

    American Oversight v. Hegseth [Docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69788832/american-oversight-v-hegseth/

    A.A.R.P. (W.M.M.) v. Trump [SCOTUS Docket]

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a1007.html

    W.M.M. (A.A.R.P.) v. Trump [Trial Docket via Court Listener]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69898198/wmm-v-donald-j-trump/

    A.A.R.P. (W.M.M.) v. Trump [Fifth Circuit Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69913684/aarp-v-trump/

    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod
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    55 mins
  • Ep 125 — Trial Judges Stand Up As SCOTUS Cowers

    Ep 125 — Trial Judges Stand Up As SCOTUS Cowers
    Apr 18 2025

    Chief Justice Roberts and the howler monkeys rolled over and played dead. But lower court judges understand the assignment, including Fourth Circuit Judge Harvie Wilkinson, a conservative icon. He read Trump — and implicitly the Supreme Court — for filth. But will it be enough? Liz and Andrew discuss the latest developments in the Salvadoran rendition cases. Plus, Trump moves to put US taxpayers on the hook for the E. Jean Carroll verdict.

    Links:

    Abrego Garcia v. Noem [District Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

    Abrego Garcia v. Noem [Fourth Circuit Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69902650/kilmar-abrego-garcia-v-kristi-noem/

    Noem v. Abrego Garcia [SCOTUS Docket]

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a949.html

    J.G.G. v. Trump [District Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/

    J.G.G. v. Trump [SCOTUS Docket]

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24a931.html

    Carroll v. Trump [Second Circuit Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68985738/carroll-v-trump/

    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod
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    59 mins
  • Ep 124 — So Much For SCOTUS’s Brilliant Plan To Head Off That Judicial Crisis

    Ep 124 — So Much For SCOTUS’s Brilliant Plan To Head Off That Judicial Crisis
    Apr 15 2025

    If Chief Justice Roberts thought he was going to protect the judiciary by throwing trial judges under the bus, he was spectacularly mistaken. The case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia is hurtling toward contempt proceedings, with the government in open defiance of the court’s order to un-kidnap him. And meanwhile, Attorney General Pam Bondi is running the Justice Department like an arm of the Trump campaign. And for subscribers: Trump steals lunch from poor kids in Maine because the state’s governor is nice to trans kids in accordance with Maine law. The state is suing, in a test case for the administration’s plan to use tax dollars as a cudgel to force social policy without having to pass laws.

    Links:

    AP v. Budowich [DC Circuit Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69869862/associated-press-v-taylor-budowich/

    AP v. Budowich [DC District Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69662918/associated-press-v-budowich/

    Susman Godfrey LLP v. Trump [Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69881953/susman-godfrey-llp-v-executive-office-of-the-president

    US v. Smirnov [District Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68254959/united-states-v-smirnov

    US v. Smirnov [Circuit Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69605315/united-states-of-america-v-smirnov/

    US v. Mangione [District Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69486519/united-states-v-mangione/

    US v. Villatoro Santos [District Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69804416/united-states-v-villatoro-santos/

    Abrego Garcia v. Noem [District Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

    Maine v. USDA [District Docket]

    https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69853711/state-of-maine-v-united-states-department-of-agriculture/



    Show Links:

    https://www.lawandchaospod.com/

    BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod

    Threads: @LawAndChaosPod

    Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod
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Expert analysis of important legal news

So far the podcast has been a great breakdown of what to expect, and where to focus your attention on upcoming stories where politics intersects with the law. As a layperson, it's empowering to know which stories have real legal substance and which don't, and of course, Liz is covering the stories that matter most.

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IANAL but I love listening to them.

I follow several lawyers and podcasts because I enjoy hearing about crazy court cases, long suffering judges and constitutional law.

But recently I've made a point of listening to Law and Chaos because I want to keep an ear on the current POTUS and his administration.. and I believe that Andrew and Liz do an amazing job with that... accompanied by the sharp wit and sarcasm that can only be obtained from years of experience with the law (and with morons)

I (almost) always feel better after listening because most of the judges in the US are at least trying to reinstate the rule of law, which Congress apparently no longer cares about.

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