Episodes

  • Season 3 Episode 5 - Jason Wood Interview Part 2

    Season 3 Episode 5 - Jason Wood Interview Part 2
    Feb 21 2025
    Here the amazing conclusion to the conversation between attorney Jason Wood and Nate as they disect where deals seem to stop making sense.
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Season 3 Episode 4 - Jason Wood Interview Part 1

    Season 3 Episode 4 - Jason Wood Interview Part 1
    Feb 21 2025
    Just Say No to the DSO is coming off of some hot interviews and following up with experts all over the country to go over the details and discerne between fact and fiction. Nate sits down with attorney Jason Wood in order to dive deep into DSO deals. Here the amazing back and forth and find out where they agree and where they don't. Part 2 will follow shortly.
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    48 mins
  • Season 3 Episode 3 - DSO Deal Case Study

    Season 3 Episode 3 - DSO Deal Case Study
    Feb 17 2025
    After the Chip interview, Bob and Nate breakdown an actual DSO deal offer in order to get a better idea and understanding at what the tangible numbers look like. We wish we were making this stuff up…but we aren’t.
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    45 mins
  • Season 3 Episode 2 - The Response to the Chip Fichtner Interview

    Season 3 Episode 2 - The Response to the Chip Fichtner Interview
    Jan 20 2025
    After our amazing interview with Chip Fichtner, we've let the dust settle a bit and had time to digest as well as think over what was said. Bob and Nate discuss what iDSOs are really offering dentists and how the math cannot compute.
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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • Season 3 Episode 1 - Interview with Chip Fichtner

    Season 3 Episode 1 - Interview with Chip Fichtner
    Jan 20 2025
    We are back for an amazing start to season 3. Bob and Nate sit down with one of the biggest iDSO brokers in the world, Chip Fichtner. This is an amazing interview to showcase what the otherside is thinking and trying to sell.
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    1 hr and 27 mins
  • Season 2 Episode 9 - Who is Looking Out for You?

    Season 2 Episode 9 - Who is Looking Out for You?
    Jul 15 2024
    In this final episode of Season 2, Bob Spiel and Nate Williams emphasize the need for
    dentists to critically assess DSO offers and understand the financial biases at play that
    drive toward consolidation – while leaving dentists in the dust. Bob and Nate aim to
    educate dentists and empower them to make decisions that align with their best
    interests and long-term goals. Teasing Season 3, they promise deeper exploration through interviews with dentists who have resisted DSOs or exited them, sharing their experiences and insights.
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    29 mins
  • Season 2 Episode 8 - A Summary of Season 2

    Season 2 Episode 8 - A Summary of Season 2
    Jul 6 2024
    Get ready for a candid and insightful chat as Bob Spiel and Nate Williams summarize
    Season 2 of "Just Say No to the DSO" – foreshadowing the end of Season 2 (although
    there will be one more bonus episode #9 coming.) In this episode, they dive deep into
    the nitty-gritty of selling dental practices to Dental Service Organizations (DSOs),
    offering up wisdom, wit, and a healthy dose of skepticism.
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    24 mins
  • Season 2 Episode 7 - Just Say No to DSO: Analyzing Common Sales Pitches

    Season 2 Episode 7 - Just Say No to DSO: Analyzing Common Sales Pitches
    Jun 14 2024
    Bob and Nate encouraging dentists to reject DSO sales pitches and maintain ownership of their practices for long-term success. Reiterating the importance of staying engaged in their work and understanding that DSOs won't overpay or make practice ownership easier.
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    24 mins