Hey White Women

By: Daniella Mestyanek Young
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  • Summary

  • In this insightful and candid conversation, Daniella Mestyanek Young, a scholar of cults, extreme groups, and extremely leadership, joins Rebecca, known as White Woman Whisperer on TikTok and Patreon, to delve into their experiences and revelations about cult dynamics, white supremacy, and systemic racism. Daniella, who grew up in the notorious Children of God cult and later served in the military, shares her journey of understanding and deconstructing white supremacy as a pervasive cult. Rebecca, a Black Jewish woman, discusses her own realizations about systemic racism and the similarities between white supremacy and cult behavior. Together, they explore the complexities of deprogramming from these ingrained systems, the importance of acknowledging privilege, and the power of vulnerability in fostering genuine understanding and change. This dialogue sheds light on the personal and societal challenges of breaking free from cult-like ideologies and the ongoing work required to dismantle oppressive systems.
    2024
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Episodes
  • Episode 17 | Weaponized Literacy

    Episode 17 | Weaponized Literacy
    Nov 26 2024
    This conversation explores the evolution of reading from a joyful activity to an obligation, the impact of recommended reading lists, and the cultural narratives that shape our understanding of literature. It delves into the role of education in shaping perspectives, the struggle for authenticity in reading, and the arbitrary nature of degrees and success. The speakers emphasize the importance of self-reflection, the complexities of human relationships, and the journey of deconstruction and awareness in navigating conversations around race and identity. In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of cultural dynamics, privilege, and the responsibilities that come with them. They discuss the discomfort surrounding difficult topics such as race, identity, and historical injustices, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging and addressing these issues. The dialogue highlights the need for active engagement in anti-racist work, the significance of reparations, and the role of white individuals in amplifying marginalized voices. Through personal anecdotes and reflections, they encourage listeners to confront their own privileges and take meaningful actions towards equity and justice. Connect with Rebecca at: Website Patreon TikTok Connect with Daniella at: Daniella's Patreon TikTok Instagram Website Youtube Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young From Bookshop.org Autographed UnAMERICAN Videobook Takeaways Reading should be enjoyable, not an obligation.Recommended reading lists can perpetuate control.The literary canon often excludes diverse voices.Education can be used as a tool for oppression.Comfort can lead to complacency in understanding issues.Degrees do not define a person's worth or capability.Self-reflection is essential for personal growth.Deconstruction of beliefs can be a painful process.Navigating race conversations requires sensitivity and awareness.Human relationships are complex and require understanding. Discomfort is often mistaken for danger, but it's essential to sit with it.Rhetorical questions can reveal deeper cultural insights and biases.The right to comfort often prioritizes the feelings of the privileged over the marginalized.Access to information should not be a privilege; it should be a right for all.Names and identity are significant; respect for them is crucial in fostering understanding.Historical sins, like slavery, require acknowledgment and responsibility from those who benefit from them.Reparations should be directed towards those most affected by systemic injustices.White privilege can be used to uplift and amplify marginalized voices.Engaging in anti-racist work requires active participation and personal accountability.Conversations about race should be normalized to foster understanding and growth. Chapters 00:00 The Evolution of Reading: From Joy to Obligation 03:09 The Impact of Recommended Reading Lists 06:10 Cultural Narratives and Literary Canon 08:50 The Politics of Reading and Education 11:16 The Arbitrary Nature of Degrees and Success 14:15 Comfort, Safety, and Self-Reflection 17:17 The Journey of Personal Growth and Understanding 28:17 Navigating Racial Conversations 30:26 Deconstructing Stereotypes and Assumptions 33:02 The Pain of Deconstruction 36:09 Understanding Trauma and Its Impact 38:30 The Role of Comfort in Conversations 41:31 The Complexity of Relationships and Change 44:24 Rhetorical Questions and Comfort 47:35 Discomfort vs. Danger 50:57 The Right to Comfort and Responsibility 58:48 Navigating Name Comfort and Identity 01:03:46 Confronting Historical Injustices 01:08:19 Reparations and Accountability 01:13:47 The Role of White Privilege in Conversations 01:18:51 Empowering Black Voices and Community Support Produced by Haley Phillips
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    1 hr and 30 mins
  • Episode 16 | What do we do now?

    Episode 16 | What do we do now?
    Nov 19 2024

    In this episode of 'Hey White Women', the first recorded after the 2024 election, hosts Daniella and Rebecca engage in a deep conversation about the role of white women in dismantling white supremacy. They discuss the importance of acknowledging discomfort, the need for collective action, and the power of community in creating change. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of listening to marginalized voices, the journey of healing, and the complexities involved in challenging ingrained societal norms. Through personal anecdotes and reflections, they encourage listeners to take action and be part of the solution.

    Connect with Rebecca at:

    Website

    Patreon

    TikTok

    Connect with Daniella at:

    Daniella's Patreon

    TikTok

    Instagram

    Website

    Youtube

    Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young

    • From Bookshop.org

    • Autographed

    • UnAMERICAN Videobook

    Takeaways

    • White women have a crucial role in dismantling white supremacy.
    • Discomfort and shame can be powerful motivators for change.
    • Community and collective action are essential for progress.
    • Listening to marginalized voices is vital in the fight against oppression.
    • Healing and personal growth are necessary parts of the journey.
    • Resistance against oppressive systems is a shared responsibility.
    • The complexity of societal change requires patience and understanding.
    • Building a better future involves acknowledging past mistakes.
    • Empathy and compassion are key in supporting one another.
    • The journey towards equality is ongoing and requires commitment.

    Sound Bites

    "We were always in this place."
    "You have agency, you have power."
    "We need to be learning from history."

    Chapters

    00:00 Deconstructing White Supremacy
    03:25 The Cult of Politics and Betrayal
    06:22 Agency and Resistance in a Cult
    09:48 Historical Context and Lessons Learned
    12:35 The Role of Generations in Change
    15:36 Understanding Comfort and Discomfort
    18:36 The Power of Ex-Members in Cults
    30:29 The Quest for Moral Superiority
    36:25 Community Building and Running Interference
    41:13 The Role of White Women in Supporting Black Voices
    44:23 Shared Missions and Collective Responsibility
    55:13 The Complexity of Social Issues and the Search for Easy Answers
    01:00:30 Understanding Discomfort vs. Danger
    01:05:15 Navigating the Journey of Self-Discovery
    01:07:29 The Importance of Patience in Growth
    01:09:37 The Role of Generosity in Relationships
    01:12:39 Challenging the Notion of Earning
    01:16:25 The Impact of Capitalism on Relationships
    01:19:02 Addressing Societal Issues Together
    01:21:13 Building a Safe Community for All

    Produced by Haley Phillips
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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • Episode 15 | Human Rights vs Pet Rocks

    Episode 15 | Human Rights vs Pet Rocks
    Nov 5 2024

    This unplanned conversation delves into the complexities of anti-racism, personal growth, and the impact of societal norms on individual experiences. The speakers discuss the importance of language, the challenges of navigating discomfort, and the role of community in healing. They also explore the intersection of mental health and racism, emphasizing the need for systemic change and the journey of self-discovery. In this conversation, Haley and Rebecca delve into the complexities of identity, focusing on the intersections of race, gender, and disability. They discuss the unique experiences of black women, the societal norms surrounding gender conversations, and the impact of legislation on personal choices. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of appreciation over validation in engaging with marginalized voices, highlighting the need for safer spaces and the recognition of diverse experiences.

    Connect with Rebecca at:

    Website

    Patreon

    TikTok

    Connect with Daniella at:

    Daniella's Patreon

    TikTok

    Instagram

    Website

    Youtube

    Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young

    • From Bookshop.org

    • Autographed

    • UnAMERICAN Videobook

    Takeaways

    • Anti-racism must be made accessible to everyone.
    • Perfectionism is a barrier to genuine anti-racist work.
    • Deconstructing belief systems requires patience and openness.
    • Language shapes our understanding of race and identity.
    • Discomfort is a necessary part of growth and learning.
    • Community support is vital in the healing process.
    • Mental health issues are often exacerbated by societal pressures.
    • Self-discovery is a continuous journey, not a destination.
    • Rest and relaxation are essential for personal well-being.
    • Understanding personal trauma can inform our interactions with others.
    • our trauma is rooted in the tenets of race.
    • Race is gendered and gender is racialized.
    • We need safer places for black women to express themselves.
    • Legislation impacts personal choices significantly.
    • Survivor's guilt can complicate feelings of freedom.
    • Engagement with black voices should focus on appreciation, not validation.
    • The complexity of black womanhood is often overlooked.
    • Gender conversations are still evolving in society.
    • Understanding intersectionality is crucial for empathy.
    • Education does not equate to understanding lived experiences.

    Sound Bites

    "The gaslighting is insane."
    "We [black women] are the most educated."
    "Don't relate, appreciate."

    Produced by Haley Phillips
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    1 hr and 31 mins

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