"The world is terrible. But it's also beautiful. So how do we tell our kids the truth?" In this episode, Joey sits down with Oscar Peña—veteran, entrepreneur, and host of The Daughter Podcast—to talk about the viral poem Good Bones by Maggie Smith. They read the poem aloud and break down how it hit them as fathers. They talk about protecting kids without sheltering them, giving them truth without fear, and why “positive realism” matters now more than ever. Oscar shares personal stories, including how a childhood trauma shaped the way he parents today. Watch this episode if you're a parent, a leader, or someone trying to make sense of a world that feels both brutal and beautiful—and how to prepare the next generation for it.

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