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  • S2E20 - Journalist Alex Bhattacharji

    S2E20 - Journalist Alex Bhattacharji
    Dec 9 2024
    Today Lamar and Tom welcome award winning journalist Alex Battacharji to Getting to 3rd Space. Alex is the author of ‘We Didn’t Know What Was Next. Nobody Tells You.’ on Inc.com published on December 2,2024. The article is about the mass shooting at Excel Industries eight years later. Excel is where Lamar was the head of human resources at the time of the shooting. Previously we have aired an interview with Lamar about his experience. As with those previous podcasts, we want to let people know that some of our discussion may include descriptions of violence. If this podcast is difficult for you to listen to, we invite you to skip ahead to parts of the conversation that are more comfortable for you. Meet Alex Bhattachargi Alex Bhattacharji is an award-winning journalist, editor, writer, and producer. In two decades as an editor, Alex led and launched culture-shaping publications (such as Conde Nast’s Details), worked with some of America’s leading writers, championed new voices, and was recognized with the National Magazine Award for General Excellence. As a writer, Alex has produced profiles, essays, and narrative features. His work has appeared in numerous publications, including Conde Nast Traveler, Details, Esquire, GQ, The Hollywood Reporter, Inc., InStyle, Los Angeles Magazine, The Los Angeles Times, Men’s Health, Men’s Journal, The New York Times, Rolling Stone, Town & Country, Travel + Leisure, Wired, and the Wall Street Journal Magazine. In 2024, Alex co-founded Feather Well Productions, which develops narrative audio, print, and film projects that originate in the non-fiction space but have the potential to go far beyond. A proud son of Flatbush, Alex followed the Dodgers’ path, leaving Brooklyn for Los Angeles’ East Side, where he resides with his wife and dog. To Learn More Learn more about Alex Battacharji at https://www.alexbhattacharji.com/ ‘We Didn’t Know What Was Next. Nobody Tells You.’ by Alex Bhattacharji. Inc.com. December 2, 2024 Lamar and Tom Discuss the Excel Shooting - Part 1 Lamar and Tom Discuss the Excel Shooting - Part 2 For more from Alex Battacharji see, Inside Sammy Davis Jr.’s Secret Satanic Past from the August 4, 2024 issue of Rolling Stone at https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/sammy-davis-jr-satanism-anton-lavey-1235070544/ Meet Lamar and Tom Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Contact Us Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Watch the Podcast Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Rothimages, and Cyberlink AI Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Rothimages, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com. Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional Information contact hello@klaushausllc.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.
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    1 hr and 21 mins
  • S2E19 - Donald Trump's Cabinet Picks and Our Thanksgiving Special

    S2E19 - Donald Trump's Cabinet Picks and Our Thanksgiving Special
    Nov 25 2024

    During this past couple of weeks President-elect Donald Trump has been making nominations for his cabinet. In today’s podcast Lamar and Tom talk about a few of his nominations. Please note, though, that politics and news changes quickly and so did at least one of his nominees discussed in this podcast. By the time we posted this podcast to the internet about 4 days later, the nominee had withdrawn. That’s how things happen sometimes, and so we have to be prepared to swerve and then keep going. Also, this podcast is also a Thanksgiving Holiday Special for Lamar and Tom as they really talk turkey (with occasional bad puns). And, of course, they talk a bit of Hawkeye football and basketball.

    Learn more:

    Tracking Trump’s Cabinet and Staff Nominations

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/politics/trump-administration-cabinet-appointees.html

    Meet Lamar and Tom

    Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.

    Contact Us

    Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    Watch the Podcast

    Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.

    Credits:

    Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

    Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

    Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

    For permissions or additional Information contact hello@klaushausllc.com.

    No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.
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    55 mins
  • S2E18 - The 2024 Presidential Election

    S2E18 - The 2024 Presidential Election
    Nov 11 2024

    The 2024 Presidential Election

    The 2024 Presidential Election is over. It’s been a long and eventful political season. In this episode Lamar and Tom discuss their thoughts on it.

    About This Episode

    They also talk about errant tumbleweeds, meteors (or possibly space junk), and upcoming podcasts.

    Please note: In the last few minutes of the podcast, a software issue caused our images to "flip" (change places) on the screen. You are not imagining it and it is nothing to be concerned about. It did not impact the flow of the podcast. We just didn't want you to think you were seeing things.

    Meet Lamar and Tom

    Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.

    Contact Us

    Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    Watch the Podcast

    Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.

    Credits:

    Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

    Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

    Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

    For permissions or additional Information contact hello@klaushausllc.com.

    No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.
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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • S2E16 - We Are Back...Almost

    S2E16 - We Are Back...Almost
    Sep 21 2024

    Wow, life happens and sometimes it can be exciting even if it is disruptive. In our case it has been both exciting and disruptive, and we needed to suspend our podcast briefly but we are working our way back. We’ve recorded this brief podcast to catch you up on what has been happening. And, wow, have we missed a lot of stuff while we’ve been away.

    We are taking a brief hiatus but we’ll be back sooner than you might imagine. Maybe even sooner than you had hoped!

    Thanks for your patience and keep checking back here for the next podcast.

    Learn more:

    The following links are to articles, podcasts, and videos related to today’s topic.

    • The Olympic Performance of the Australian Breakdancer:https://youtu.be/XkDtN9h2qms?si=pWHehlgrkm5-80oG

    Ways to Hear and See Getting to Third Space

    Getting to Third Space is on all major audio podcast platforms including Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. When we come back full time, we’ll also be on YouTube again but likely with a new address.

    Meet Lamar & Tom

    Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a Third Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.

    To contact us with a comment, suggestion, ideas for guests or topics, or just to say hello, send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    Credits:

    • Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus

    • Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, and Cyberlink AI

    • Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.
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    24 mins
  • S2E15 - Quieting the Noise of this Political Season

    S2E15 - Quieting the Noise of this Political Season
    Aug 5 2024
    Whether we like it, love it, or hate it, we are now in the midst of a full-blown Presidential campaign. The news just keeps happening. After the assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump, President Joe Biden decided to end his run for a second term. He endorsed his Vice President, Kamala Harris, and all political parties are now in full campaign mode. As a result, conversations about politics will be unavoidable for most of us. Though we try to avoid politics in our podcast, we are going to try something a bit different. We are going to talk about the issues in the campaign (not the personalities) and offer some suggestions for how you can have similar conversations on political topics. This week we are going to focus on how you can silence the noise being produced by the campaigns and become more clear about how you feel about the issues. The links below will take you to some websites where you can learn more about media bias and where you can do your own fact checking…without the noise, without the pundits. Learn more: The following links are to articles, podcasts, and videos related to today’s topic. Defining Pundit - Oxford Reference: https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100354759#:~:text=An%20expert%20in%20a%20particular,Dictionary%20of%20Phrase%20and%20Fable%20%C2%BB Perplexity and “What is a pundit?”: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-is-a-pundit-znyNkPwtQlWW82FValHRMw#0 To check the bias of news outlets: Allsides.com: https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news ad fontes media: https://adfontesmedia.com/ Media Bias Fact Check: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ To fact check news yourself: Fact Check: https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact: https://www.politifact.com/ Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/ The Washington Post Fact Checker: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fact-checker/ For conversation opportunities: 3rd Space Table Talks: Sponsored by Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar & Tom. Learn more here: https://forms.gle/ZtXEPty7g6bCyEXz8 Braver Angels: https://braverangels.org/ Meet Up: https://www.meetup.com/ Conversation Cafe: https://www.liberatingstructures.com/17-conversation-cafe/ Socrates Cafe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates_Cafe Party Platforms: Democratic Party Platform: A draft of the 2024 platform was release on July 13, 2024 but will not be finalized until the DNC Convention in Chicago, August 19-24m 2024. You can read the current platform and follow updates to it here: https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/ Republican Party Platform for 2024: To find the RNC platform on its website, click on the following link then scroll to the middle of the page. Under “Our Platform,” click on the “Learn More” button on the red banner and this will open up a PDF version of the 2024 platform approved at the RNC July convention in Milwaukee: https://gop.com/about-our-party/ Ways to Hear and See Getting to Third Space Getting to Third Space is on all major audio podcast platforms including Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. You can also watch us doing the podcast on the Tenacious Change Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@tenaciouschange. Once there, click on “Podcasts” and you’ll be able to see the Getting to Third Space playlist. Or, if you like, copy and paste this link into your browser and it will take directly to that playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXwopowpXKCcrS7PV5MsdmHPANTzBKu_b Meet Lamar & Tom Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a Third Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. To contact us with a comment, suggestion, ideas for guests or topics, or just to say hello, send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, and Cyberlink AI Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com. Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom is a Klaus Haus Creation for Tenacious Change, TM and Copyright 2024 by Tenacious Change LLC, All Rights Reserved For permissions or additional Information: info@tenaciouschange.us or tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.
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    51 mins
  • S2E14 - An Assassination Attempt and Turning Down the Temp

    S2E14 - An Assassination Attempt and Turning Down the Temp
    Jul 22 2024

    Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom!

    As we were preparing for our next podcast, former President Donald Trump survived an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. One bullet grazed his right ear and bullets struck three people in the audience. One died and two others were seriously wounded. In this episode, Lamar and Tom talk about the escalation of violent rhetoric in the 2024 U.S. Presidential campaign and the need to turn down the temperature by choosing our words and language more carefully. They discuss four suggestions for making this campaign more civil in the wake of the Trump assassination attempt, offered by Luke Hallam in his Persuasion article titled How to Walk Back from the Brink - https://www.persuasion.community/p/how-to-walk-back-from-the-brink?r=5pobe&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true

    Learn more:

    The following links are to articles, podcasts, and videos related to today’s topic.

    • What DO we Want from Our Leaders? By Tom Klaus, in Change It Up! From Tenacious Change - https://open.substack.com/pub/tenaciouschange/p/what-do-we-want-in-our-leaders?r=5pobe&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

    • Our Conversation with Seth Kaplan from early in Season 2 - https://youtu.be/inuF2UYS4oY?si=mw6jLeNSZUF89yWP

    • Our most recent podcast, S2E13, on the Excel Shooting - https://youtu.be/tgRFux1EtWQ

    • Rachel Kleinfeld on the Attempted Assassination of Donald Trump and the Rise of Political Violence in America - https://yaschamounk.substack.com/p/kleinfeld2?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

    • An interesting, and mostly 3rd Space, conversation between Jon Stewart and Bill O’Reilly on The Daily Show after the Trump assassination attempt. https://youtu.be/h7qZE4C_neo?si=a7ZjJTDAsevxBGeL

    Ways to Hear and See Getting to Third Space

    Getting to Third Space is on all major audio podcast platforms including Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. You can also watch us doing the podcast on the Tenacious Change Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@tenaciouschange. Once there, click on “Podcasts” and you’ll be able to see the Getting to Third Space playlist. Or, if you like, copy and paste this link into your browser and it will take directly to that playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXwopowpXKCcrS7PV5MsdmHPANTzBKu_b

    Meet Lamar & Tom

    Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a Third Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.

    To contact us with a comment, suggestion, ideas for guests or topics, or just to say hello, send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    Credits:

    • Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus

    • Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, and Cyberlink AI

    • Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    • Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom is a Klaus Haus Creation for Tenacious Change, TM and Copyright 2024 by Tenacious Change LLC, All Rights Reserved

    • For permissions or additional Information: info@tenaciouschange.us or tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com.

    No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.
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    55 mins
  • S2E13 - Excel Shooting Part 2

    S2E13 - Excel Shooting Part 2
    Jul 8 2024
    Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom! CONTENT ADVISORY: THIS EPISODE OF GETTING TO 3RD SPACE WITH LAMAR AND TOM DISCUSSES A MASS SHOOTING, WITH FATALITIES, AND ITS AFTERMATH. In our last podcast we started a conversation with Lamar about the February 25, 2016 mass shooting at Excel Industries in Hesston, Kansas. Lamar was the Director of Human Resources at Excel and his leadership role thrust him into the midst of dealing with the shooting and its aftermath on behalf of the company. That’s what we discussed in our last podcast. Today, though, we are going to do a dive into the personal impact of the shooting for Lamar, his family, and his community. Hesston, Kansas is a Mennonite community. Mennonites are a Christian sect which are often confused with the Amish because they share a religious history. Mennonites are one of three historic “peace” churches in the Christian tradition, the other two being Quakers and Church of Brethren. Lamar and his wife Karla grew up in Mennonite families and raised their children in the Mennonite church. Excel Industries was also owned by a Mennonite family and Hesston College, a Mennonite school, was founded in the community in 1909. Knowing about these deep, pacifist Mennonite roots of Hesston, Kansas is important for understanding and appreciating both the trauma of the event on the people of the community and, also, how they responded. If you haven’t had a chance to listen or watch the previous podcast that tells the story of the shooting, we hope you’ll do that before jumping into this one. It gives you important context for more fully appreciating this episode. You can link to that podcast here: https://youtu.be/4DdRiCDbtz4?si=gUsj7IStpa7biEh9. We realize this may not be an easy topic for some of our listeners.If, by watching or listening to this podcast, you are affected and need to talk with someone, we encourage you to call or text 988 or go online to the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. As we did in the last podcast, I’ll be serving as the interviewer and Lamar will be in the “guest role.” Now, I’ve opened the door to the Green Room and Lamar will join us in a moment. Learn more: Hesston Shootings (Wikipedia) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesston_shootings Officials: Four dead, 14 wounded in shooting at Excel Industries in Hesston - https://www.ksn.com/news/officials-four-dead-14-wounded-in-shooting-at-excel-industries-in-hesston/ Hesston community remembers Excel shooting five years later - https://www.kwch.com/2021/02/25/hesston-community-remembers-excel-shooting-5-years-later/ Victory in gun dealer lawsuit: Global $2 million settlement reached with gun dealer who transferred firearms used in Excel Industries mass shooting - https://www.bradyunited.org/about-us/press/two-million-dollar-settlement-reached-with-gun-dealer-who-transferred-firearms-used-in-mass-shooting To watch the 2020 interview with Lamar Roth - Leading Through Traumatic Disruptive Events: A Conversation with Lamar Roth - https://youtu.be/3sEUEjUgINc?si=tkYAr7z0sJZyQG8V Ways to Hear and See Getting to Third Space Getting to Third Space is on all major audio podcast platforms including Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. You can also watch us doing the podcast on the Tenacious Change Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@tenaciouschange. Once there, click on “Podcasts” and you’ll be able to see the Getting to Third Space playlist. Or, if you like, copy and paste this link into your browser and it will take directly to that playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXwopowpXKCcrS7PV5MsdmHPANTzBKu_b Meet Lamar & Tom Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a Third Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. To contact us with a comment, suggestion, ideas for guests or topics, or just to say hello, send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, and Cyberlink AI
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  • S2E12 - Excel Shooting Part 1

    S2E12 - Excel Shooting Part 1
    Jun 27 2024

    Welcome to Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom! CONTENT ADVISORY: THIS EPISODE OF GETTING TO 3RD SPACE WITH LAMAR AND TOM DISCUSSES A MASS SHOOTING, WITH FATALITIES, AND ITS AFTERMATH. On February 25, 2016, Lamar Roth, cohost of Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom, was Director of Human Resources for Excel Manufacturing in Hesston, Kansas. Cedric Ford, an Excel employee, entered the building and began shooting. That day four people died, including Cedric, more than a dozen others were wounded, and many, many more in Hesston, Kansas were traumatized by the events. In this podcast, and the next episode, Lamar and Tom talk about the mass shooting. We realize this may not be an easy topic for some of our listeners. If, by watching or listening to this podcast, you are affected and need to talk with someone, we encourage you to call or text 988 or go online to the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. Learn more: Hesston Shootings (Wikipedia) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hesston_shootings Officials: Four dead, 14 wounded in shooting at Excel Industries in Hesston - https://www.ksn.com/news/officials-four-dead-14-wounded-in-shooting-at-excel-industries-in-hesston/ Police Chief who killed active shooter speaks publicly (includes a timeline) - https://apnews.com/e6063286b32a4f8cba87e3bb18fa3cca

    Shooting at Excel Industries: Looking Back & Moving Forward -https://www.rurallifestyledealer.com/blogs/1-from-the-desk-of-rld/post/8222-shooting-at-excel-industries-looking-back-moving-forward Hesston community remembers Excel shooting five years later - https://www.kwch.com/2021/02/25/hesston-community-remembers-excel-shooting-5-years-later/ Victory in gun dealer lawsuit: Global $2 million settlement reached with gun dealer who transferred firearms used in Excel Industries mass shooting - https://www.bradyunited.org/about-us/press/two-million-dollar-settlement-reached-with-gun-dealer-who-transferred-firearms-used-in-mass-shooting To watch the 2020 interview with Lamar Roth - Leading Through Traumatic Disruptive Events: A Conversation with Lamar Roth - https://youtu.be/3sEUEjUgINc?si=tkYAr7z0sJZyQG8V Ways to Hear and See Getting to Third Space Getting to Third Space is on all major audio podcast platforms including Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, and Apple Podcasts. You can also watch us doing the podcast on the Tenacious Change Youtube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@tenaciouschange. Once there, click on “Podcasts” and you’ll be able to see the Getting to Third Space playlist. Or, if you like, copy and paste this link into your browser and it will take directly to that playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXwopowpXKCcrS7PV5MsdmHPANTzBKu_b Meet Lamar & Tom Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a Third Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. To contact us with a comment, suggestion, ideas for guests or topics, or just to say hello, send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus

    Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, and Cyberlink AI

    Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar.3rdSpace@gmail.com. Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom is a Klaus Haus Creation for Tenacious Change, TM and Copyright 2024 by Tenacious Change LLC, All Rights Reserved For permissions or additional Information: info@tenaciouschange.us or tom.3rdSpace@gmail.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film, but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.
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