In this episode of the Sustainable Ambassador Podcast, I am joined by Hiroko Muraki Gottlieb, an accomplished environmental lawyer whose career spans global business, nonprofits, intergovernmental organizations, and academia.

Hiroko shares her journey from practicing corporate environmental law to becoming deeply involved in international policy making, including her critical role in shaping the High Seas Treaty.

Together, we explore the role of legal professionals in sustainability, the challenges of aligning diverse interests, and her insights into building impactful careers in environmental law and policy.

Whether you're a legal professional, policymaker, or sustainability enthusiast, this episode is packed with wisdom and inspiration.

Timestamps:

00:00 – Welcome to episode

01:08 – Hiroko Introduction

02:12 – Role of Lawyers in Policy

03:48 – Challenges in Advocacy

05:11 – Science and Policy Integration

07:21 – High Seas Treaty Overview

09:22 – Ratification Process

11:30 – Country-Specific Dynamics

13:19 – Balancing Speed and Consensus

15:18 – Lessons from Negotiations

18:23 – Passion and Professionalism

20:24 – Personal Takeaways

22:45 – Future Focus

25:20 – Advice for Aspiring Environmental Lawyers

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