Frank and Stan Chats

By: Frank Norris and Stan Johnson
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  • Frank Norris and Stan Johnson have been friends since 1995. Both have had successful and lengthy careers in education. Frank was a very senior HMI with Ofsted for 11 years and was the CEO of the Coop Academies Trust for 6 years. Stan was seconded to Ofsted for a year and then returned to headship before working as a senior adviser with Lancashire LA. He has latterly led a successful education consultancy in the North West. Prior to Covid-19, the two gents would meet in Manchester for a pint or two but the pandemic put an end to that. On 1 May 2020, they recorded their first video chat as a way of recording their emotions and reactions to the pandemic. After putting the video on Youtube as a safe place to store it they realised that some followers began to appear. Now, with nearly 180 episodes and having chatted to Professors, CEOs, journalists, teachers, former HMI, education thinkers and Frank's Key Stage 1 leading daughter they have a loyal following and a rapidly increasing number of viewers. The reach of the Frank and Stan Chat stretches from Bogota to Ottawa to Greece and their first Live Edition was recorded in front of nearly 200 Headteachers in York. The Chats are not undertaken to attract followers or for financial reward (nothing is received and nothing will be received). It is a way of airing views on education matters between two professional friends with a focus on leadership. We are honoured to be invited to host the weekly chats on the Leader-connect website www.leader-connect.co.uk. The chats helped the gents get through the pandemic and they are delighted that they have been enjoyed by others and appear to have helped in developing leadership thought and actions. If you fancy being a guest then just reach out. We never post a video unless the guest is comfortable with it. So, it is a relatively risk-free environment. Thank you. Frank and Stan

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Episodes
  • Frank and Stan Chat No. 211

    Frank and Stan Chat No. 211
    Feb 1 2025
    The two gents are delighted to be able to welcome back Sarah Davies, an Assistant Headteacher, keynote speaker and author with a keen interest in oracy. Sarah provides an interesting update on where the oracy issue is at the moment and provides some underlying principles for how it should or could be introduced into every teacher's classroom. Stan considers what he's gained from a garage clearance and reflects on how useful it is for all in education to just reflect on what is useful and what is not. Sarah considers changes to the AQA syllabus for GCSE and how they will impact on what students learn and how they express themselves. Frank closes off the chat with a reflection on some CEO salaries and how excessive they are, in his view. It's another great chat. We hope you enjoy it as much as we did recording it. Until next week.

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    41 mins
  • Frank and Stan Chat No. 212

    Frank and Stan Chat No. 212
    Feb 1 2025
    The two gents are delighted to be able to welcome back Sarah Davies, an Assistant Headteacher, keynote speaker and author with a keen interest in oracy. Sarah provides an interesting update on where the oracy issue is at the moment and provides some underlying principles for how it should or could be introduced into every teacher's classroom. Stan considers what he's gained from a garage clearance and reflects on how useful it is for all in education to just reflect on what is useful and what is not. Sarah considers changes to the AQA syllabus for GCSE and how they will impact on what students learn and how they express themselves. Frank closes off the chat with a reflection on some CEO salaries and how excessive they are, in his view. It's another great chat. We hope you enjoy it as much as we did recording it. Until next week.

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    38 mins
  • Frank and Stan Chat No. 210

    Frank and Stan Chat No. 210
    Jan 17 2025
    Life is full of contradictions and this week's chat is no exception. The two gents reflect on the knowledge, skills, understanding, attitudes and behaviours necessary for living in today's world and the one that is coming. Stan considers the challenges he has faced in rebuilding a family member's bathroom. It has been a journey of discovery both for him and for those he has sought help from during the past three weeks. Frank reflects on the PM's speech about AI and considers whether all of the connections have been made in terms of what is taught in schools and whether there is clarity on how to achieve this. The government wants growth and it will need to do more to ensure education delivers what the economy needs moving forward. So, the chat highlights a possible contradiction or does it?. Stan wants more traditional life skills so that young people can make the most of their lives as well as supporting the drive for economic growth whereas Frank wants to focus fully on the future where AI will be a key feature. But, all of these aspects are central to successful personal and national futures. We definitely need greater clarity on all of this and a shift away from viewing the academic route as the preferred route. This is where the PM missed a trick, in our opinion. We hope you enjoy the chat.

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    37 mins

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