In this episode, Jost and Leon navigate the great divide - the phenomenon that not only separates us politically, but that splinters us even further based on every issue imaginable. The biggest loser is our health, and this is where the battle is being fought whether we realise it or not. Jost gets into the Taoist and Chinese medicine perspective on division and transformation, how they are inseparable from current events, and the organ that allows us to distinguish relevant issues with clarity before making decisions. Jost and Leon also discuss Bobby Kennedy Jr’s confirmation hearings and his face-off with Bernie Sanders, and what this confrontation represents in the bigger picture. Leon talks about a serendipitous discovery of JFK’s affinity for design and the symbol of hope his legacy left behind. Jost and Leon also chat about the dead internet theory, bomb-proof suits, the Shaolin way, and what happens when you mention the “T” word.

While it feels like we’re in a battle of good vs evil, it’s really a battle between good and ill health, so we now have to cultivate our personal health as a form of resistance against divisive forces. The great divide isn’t about picking sides, it’s about finding clarity in chaos.