In the premiere episode of the Data Center Richness podcast, host Rich Miller speaks with Apolo CEO Bill Kleyman about his mantra of "power and bravery" as the key to innovation and building the data center industry of the future.

A key focus is the timeline for nuclear-powered data centers. How soon can nuclear energy be available to address the "power gap" from constraints on regional power grids? Rich and Bill discuss the varied approaches to nuclear data centers - including traditional nuclear plants, small modular reactors (SMRs) and even portable microreactors that can be deployed on trucks - as well as the interest from tech titans like Microsoft, Google, Amazon (AWS), Meta and many others.

Kleyman says nuclear-powered AI infrastructure may arrive sooner than expected. He will moderate a keynote session at the Data Center World conference featuring Google and nuclear specialist Kairos Power, who hope to have a nuclear project online by 2030.

Kleyman also talks about the importance of introducing data center careers to younger students, and his experience with immersive learning programs. And Bill has lots to say on his theme of "power and bravery" as the key to innovation and building the data center industry of the future.

Here's an overview of the discussion between Rich Miller and Bill Kleyman

00:00 Introduction to Data Center Richness
00:21 Meet Bill Kleyman
00:41 The Outlook for Nuclear Power in Data Centers
02:38 The Growing Demand for Clean Energy to Power AI
03:49 The Rapid Evolution of the Data Center Industry
05:38 Practical Deployment of Nuclear Technologies
14:46 Staffing and Workforce Development
17:47 Inspiring the Next Generation
23:30 Power and Bravery!

At Data Center Richness we demystify technology and explain why data centers matter, and what comes next for the Internet, cloud computing and AI. Join respected industry expert Rich Miller for conversations that will help you understand the fast-moving world of digital infrastructure, and what it means to you. Rich Miller is a journalist and analyst who has been tracking the data center industry for more than 25 years, explaining how data centers are central to the Internet, the AI revolution, and the energy transition.

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