In this episode of the Culture First podcast, host Damon Klotz speaks with Bob Sutton, an organizational psychologist, Stanford management professor, and New York Times best-selling author. They discuss the negative impacts of power differences within organizations, the concept of destructive and constructive friction, and the critical role of leadership in mitigating such friction. The episode delves into Bob Sutton's latest work on 'The Friction Project' and explores how effective leaders can navigate cultural challenges. Additionally, they discuss Bob's famous 'No Asshole Rule,' exploring the detrimental effects of toxic behaviors in the workplace and the importance of building supportive and psychologically safe work environments. The conversation is enriched with real-life examples from companies like Google, Microsoft, and Pixar, along with valuable insights and actionable advice for transforming workplace culture.

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In this episode of the Culture First podcast, host Damon Klotz, along with co-hosts Fresia Jackson, Director of People Science at Culture Amp, and Justin Angsuwat, Chief People Officer at Culture Amp, delve into the trends shaping the future of work in 2025.

They discuss the implications of AI on job roles, the evolving dynamics between employees and employers, and the declining favorability of do-it-all leadership. The episode is packed with research data, including insights from over 1.3 billion data points and input from thousands of employees, shedding light on the current workplace landscape.

Key trends like team-focused performance reviews, decision intelligence, and leadership strategies are explored, offering listeners valuable perspectives on navigating the complexities of the modern workplace.

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In this episode of the Culture First podcast, our host Damon Klotz invited Didier Elzinga, the CEO of Culture Amp, to step into the interview seat and speak with Esther Perel, a renowned psychotherapist and pioneering voice in understanding modern relationships and workplace dynamics.

Together, Didier and Esther discuss the importance of relational dynamics and the power of storytelling in solving conflicts and creating meaningful connections. The conversation touches on the complexities of today’s workplace cultures, such as how to bridge cultural differences, build trust in remote work environments, and find the right balance between empathy and accountability in leadership roles.

Some of the key takeaways from this episode include managing expectations, fostering psychological safety, and responding to the changing values of different generations. Listen to this insightful discussion to gain practical strategies for enhancing leadership skills and boosting organizational potential by focusing on building quality relationships and practising compassionate communication.

Show notes:

Esther's original Culture First Podcast Episode with Damon Klotz

Esther’s website

Where Should We Begin? The game

Esther’s podcast, Where Should We Begin?

Key Takeaways:

1. Effective leaders balance empathy and accountability:

• Leaders need to be empathic and care about their employees' personal challenges and emotions, but they must also hold them accountable for their responsibilities. This balance ensures that employees feel supported yet understand the importance of meeting expectations and fulfilling their roles within the organization.

1. The importance of in-person interactions:

• Although remote work offers convenience, it lacks the richness of in-person interactions essential for building relationships, trust, and effective collaboration. Leaders should treat in-person interactions as valuable resources and use them for activities that significantly benefit from face-to-face engagement, such as brainstorming sessions, mentorship, and fostering team cohesion.

1. Explicit communication of expectations is key:

• Unstated expectations often lead to resentment and misunderstandings. By clearly articulating what they expect from their team members, leaders can ensure that team members understand their roles and responsibilities. This approach promotes accountability and reduces the potential for conflicts arising from unmet, unspoken expectations.

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In this episode of the Culture First podcast, Damon Klotz interviews Dr. Marcus Collins, professor and best-selling author of For the Culture: The Power Behind What We Buy, What We Do, and Who We Want to Be. Together, they discuss the profound impact of culture on brand and organizational success. They delve into the definitions and misconceptions surrounding culture. They explore how brands like Patagonia and e.l.f. Beauty authentically maintain consistency between their external and internal cultures. They also touch upon how culture can be leveraged as a competitive advantage and the role of storytelling in creating authentic connections. A highlighted conversation stems from Collins' insights into pragmatic cultural transformation and maintaining authenticity within brands.

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In this episode of the Culture First podcast, Damon Klotz interviews Shane Battier. Shane is a two-time NBA champion and former player for the Miami Heat. He was recognized as a scholar-athlete at Duke University, earning accolades such as the National Player of the Year before being drafted sixth overall in the 2001 NBA Draft. Beyond basketball, Battier is committed to philanthropy through his foundation, which focuses on educational resources for underserved youth. In this episode, Damon talks with Shane about the role data plays in decision making and the importance of teammate-ship over leadership.

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In this episode of the Culture First podcast, Damon Klotz interviews Amy Gallo, an esteemed author and workplace expert. Damon and Amy have an in-depth discussion on conflict resolution, feedback, and workplace culture. Amy shares her experiences and professional insights, addressing the perils of 'artificial harmony', the importance of establishing norms for healthy disagreements, and the role of empathy in feedback. The conversation explores managing conflicts both in-person and remotely, emphasizing psychological safety, clear communication, and the value of difficult yet necessary conversations. Featuring personal anecdotes, professional strategies, and cultural references from shows like 'Succession', this episode provides valuable advice for fostering high-performance and healthy workplace environments.

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In this episode of the Culture First podcast, Damon Klotz interviews Vincent Stanley, Patagonia’s Director of Philosophy. They discuss Patagonia’s unconventional approach to business, emphasizing cultural confidence and the importance of storytelling in building a responsible company. Vincent shares insights on Patagonia's foundational values, decision-making processes, and the importance of focusing on both environmental and societal responsibilities. The discussion highlights Patagonia's unique practices such as their transition to organic cotton and commitment to feedback culture, offering valuable lessons for other mission-driven organizations.

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In what ways are today’s workplace expectations shifting, and what does it mean for the future of professional growth?

In this episode of the Culture First podcast, Damon Klotz sits down with Isabel Berwick, the Working Careers Editor at the Financial Times and author of the bestseller 'The Future Proofed Career,' to tackle these very questions.

Isabel and Damon discuss key themes around adapting to uncertainty, the role of AI in the workplace, the significance of curiosity, and maintaining a healthy work-life balance. They also touch on the importance of career development, building relationships and networks, practical advice for self-advocacy, and specific tips for engaging with senior leadership.

Show notes:

Isabel’s book The Future Proof Career

Isabel’s articles on the Financial Times

Working It podcast

Key Takeaways:

1. Embracing change and uncertainty: It’s important to be comfortable with uncertainty, particularly around career development. Today’s rapidly changing landscape requires us to not only accept change but actively engage with it to better understand and navigate new norms.
2. The value of human skills: As AI and automation become more prevalent, human elements like creativity, empathy, and interpersonal skills become crucial. These skills are what differentiate us from machines and add unique value to our work.
3. Importance of visibility and self-advocacy: Practicing self-advocacy and visibility can help you stay top-of-mind in your organization. Ways to do so include being present in meetings (both physically and virtually), promoting others' work alongside your own, and using clear communication during meaningful interactions, like speaking with a CEO.

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