Cider Chat

By: Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist
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  • Interviewing cidermakers importers, orchardists, foodies, farmers and cider enthusiasts around the world. Let’s delve into the semantics of cider…or is it hard cider, cidre, sidra or fermented apple juice? The truth is out there in Ciderville and we are going to find it. We toast in celebration of cider; As a libation, a gift from the gods, a taste of terroir, and a hard pressed good time. Ready to quench your thirst? Grab a glass and join this chat! See you in Ciderville!
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  • 447: Inside the Michigan Cider Association with Executive Director Paula Englin

    447: Inside the Michigan Cider Association with Executive Director Paula Englin
    Feb 19 2025
    Michigan Cider: The Great Cider State with Paula Englin Michigan has earned its place as a leader in the cider industry, boasting the highest number of hard cider businesses in the U.S. In this episode, Paula Englin, Executive Director of the Michigan Cider Association, discusses the state’s growth in cider, the role of education, and how Michigan cider makers are shaping the industry with events like the well known cider competition GLINTCAP – Great Lakes International Cider and Perry competition. MCA Executive Director Paula Englin With nearly 195 cider businesses and a thriving community, Michigan truly is The Great Cider State Growing Michigan Cider: Collaboration & Education The Michigan Cider Association was founded over a decade ago to bring cider makers together, advocate for legislative needs, and expand consumer awareness. Today, the association focuses on education, providing opportunities for cider makers at all levels—from home enthusiasts to large-scale producers. One of the recent big initiatives has been working with the Cider Institute, formely known as the Cider Institute of North America (CINA), to offer subsidized cider education. Michigan cider makers have benefited from foundational courses, cider guide certifications for taproom staff, and marketing efforts that drive cider sales across the state. Mapping Michigan’s Cider Scene Michigan’s unique geography, shaped by the Great Lakes, creates an ideal environment for growing apples. Many cider makers source their fruit locally, often within 30 minutes of their production sites. Here’s how the cider landscape breaks down: To use this Hand Map – Hold up your left hand, palm facing outward, with fingers together and thumb extended—this mimics Michigan’s Lower Peninsula, often called “The Mitten,” with Detroit near the base of the thumb and Traverse City near the tip of your pinky. Metro Detroit (Thumb region) – A hub for orchards and cideries, home to well-known producers.Southwest Michigan (Pinky side of the mitten) – A mix of wineries and cideries, taking advantage of the region’s wine industry crossover.Grand Rapids & the Fruit Ridge (Center of the mitten) – A major apple-growing region supplying cideries statewide.Traverse City (Top of the mitten) – A destination for cider lovers, known for high-quality cider apples and innovative makers. Cider Events That Put Michigan on the Map Michigan’s cider industry thrives on consumer engagement, and events play a major role in getting more people to appreciate and support local cider. Michigan Apple Festival (Sparta, MI) – A harvest celebration featuring local apple growers, cider producers, and even an apple peeling contest!Cider Week Grand Rapids (May 9-17, 2025) – A week of cider-focused events, including pairing dinners, tap takeovers, and a board game night at House Rules in Grand Rapids.Grand Rapids Wine, Beer & Food Festival – Showcasing a variety of Michigan ciders to educate new consumers and cider fans alike. GLINTCAP: Great Lakes International Cider and Perry competition Michigan is also home to GLINTCAP (Great Lakes International Cider & Perry Competition), the world’s largest cider competition. Paula now oversees the event, which continues to grow, introducing a low and no-ABV category for the first time in 2025. One major shift? Judging is now fully digital, improving feedback delivery and accuracy. The competition also expanded international accessibility, making it easier for cider makers worldwide to participate. Contant the Michigan Cider Association Website: https://michiganciders.com/ Mentions in this Cider Chat Totally Cider Tour to the UK – send an email to info@ciderchat.com to get on the wait list for spots opening on this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025 and future cider tours.Letter from Patron Rod – Become a patron of Cider Chat via Cider Chat PatreonStone Ridge Orchard May Wassail – follow on InstagramEpisode 296 Bauman’s |Oregon’s Destination Farm Cidery
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    59 mins
  • 446: Monica Cohen, the New CEO of the American Cider Association

    446: Monica Cohen, the New CEO of the American Cider Association
    Feb 12 2025
    Monica Cohen on Leading the ACA

    Monica Cohen, the new CEO of the American Cider Association (ACA), stepped into her role at CiderCon 2025 in Chicago. With a background in dairy marketing and a passion for helping craft industries grow, she brings fresh energy and a bold vision to the cider world.

    Her introduction to cider mirrors a challenge the industry faces—many consumers assume all cider is the same.

    She’s on a mission to change that.

    American Cider Association CEO, Monica Cohen Priorities for 2025

    Monica laid out her key focus areas for the ACA:

    • Enhancing membership value – Ensuring small and large cideries alike benefit from ACA resources.
    • Growing ACA membership – Making the association indispensable to cider makers.
    • Strengthening advocacy – Fighting for fair industry regulations, including tax structures.
    • Increasing consumer awareness – Changing public perception and getting cider on more menus.
    Cider’s Big Opportunity

    Monica believes cider’s time is now. She emphasizes that innovation, consumer education, and stronger industry collaboration will be key to the next phase of growth.

    CiderCon Takeaways & The Path Forward

    At CiderCon 2025, Monica had an “aha moment” during Cider Share, experiencing firsthand the incredible diversity of cider. She sees the event as more than just a conference—it’s a place for the cider community to connect, share ideas, and shape the industry’s future.

    Looking ahead to CiderCon 2026 in Providence Rhode Island, Monica wants to grow attendance, attract new industry partners, and ensure the event remains relevant and impactful for all makers big or small.

    Contact the American Cider Association
    • Website: https://ciderassociation.org
    Mentions in this Cider Chat
    • Totally Cider Tour to the UK – send an email to info@ciderchat.com to get on the wait list for spots opening on this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025.
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    46 mins
  • 445: Unspoken Creed | Stories in Ciderville /Denmark

    445: Unspoken Creed | Stories in Ciderville /Denmark
    Feb 3 2025
    An Unspoken Creed By Sune Kroghansen Enjoy this special Story in Ciderville from Denmark! “Roedding The restart of the cider adventure in Rødding. In the mid-00s, the villagers of Rødding had begun making cider. It faded due to the focus on grafting, planting and nursing the thousands of apple trees in the apple village. In the fall of 2018, focus was about to change again, apple trees was maturing and a decrease nursing left time for something else. Organized by the association: “Æblets by” — “The Apple Village” a congregation was held, 2 score of interested participants met in the community house of the small village of Rødding in Salling. Amongst was participants living close by in the parish, living in the municipality, the region, and a scarce few from far away. The desire to use the apples for more than just planting. Apple juice production was already a major activity in the village, inspiring the entreprenant townsfolks to move further. Creating activity, community and jobs from the apples grown. Those present discussed opportunities of diversifying activities, moving into cider production along with vinegar, jam, jelly. During the fall of 2018 and winter of 2019, the first cider was fermented. Apples from the gene bank Pometet Nursery part of, University of Copenhagen. Was used I these ferments. Inspired by, among others: Andrew Lea, Cider Chat, Cold Hand Winery, University of Copenhagen Department of Plant Sciences. Fermentation and experimentation started with a steep learning curve: Oe, capsules, corks, aglets, disgorging, remuage, tirage, liquere de expedition, brownhat, so2, eggysmell, ester, alcohol taxes, VAT, tankcleaning, oak, food safety control, acid. We tasted, laughed, spit, drank, smelled with a focus on the experience and excitement of the taste experience. We try to greet a new taste or flavour: “I don’t know you, what can you do? What makes you shine?” Of course, everyone has a favorite taste. But experience has taught us. That there is great variation, and “good taste” depends on what the cider is to be used for. The Cider Club meets regularly. Both with a focus on cozy togetherness but also with a focus on technical details, training cider crafting techniques and in taste and sensory. Promoting spreading the joy of fermented apples. I don’t know if the word “Creed” or “credo” was discussed, I don’t think so! however a “spirit” has been underlying everything though unspoken: The unspoken creed It should taste good. It should be as local as possible. It should preferably be in unmanipulated. Although “natural” is a well-worn word. It is the idea/spirit/dream that we should strive to find: The apple or apple cultivars that make good cider. The cultivar should also be able to: Grow on a healthy, unpruned, untended tree, where we live. They should be easy to press into apple juice. The juice should ferment alone without adding anything other than time. It should be able to keep without any other preservation than a lid. It may be construde as a naive dream that does not abide into modern production society, nor does it fit efficient agriculture. And probably not even practically possible. So there have been deviations from the idea along the way. Mostly to follow the first part of the unspoken creed: “it must taste good” Like a vanilla bean, that tastes fantastic but is not particularly widespread growing in the Danish landscape. So if kakifruits, sulfur, sugar, oak, pineapple, oranges, erythritol, lactose, pasteurization, elderflowers. Are necessary to achieve “good cider” then so be it. The Cider Club is a spirit, and a loose part of an international movement of cider from pure apple juice. We strive to include everyone, and avoid selfishness, selfsufficientness. We are not signers of the “New Nordic Food Manifesto of 2004” but looking back it has influenced us tremendously. With a mixture of epicurean joy of life and the joys of the table. Sustainable thinking and naive optimism. The best we can do, each thing in its own time. BUT we originate from the village of apples so the foundation is the diversity of the old apple cultivars. The hope is to, create something people will choose to enjoy. And It should be fun along the way. Without ruining anything for the world of tomorrow. Wasalling!” Have a story to tell for the “Stories in Ciderville” segment? Must be 3000 words or less or under 4 audio minutesApples and pommes must be integrated into the story lineSend your essay and a recording of yourself reading your essay to info@ciderchat.com Mentions in this Cider Chat Totally Cider Tour to the UK – send an email to info@ciderchat.com to get on the wait list for this 2025 tour taking place August 25-31, 2025Chicago Cider WeekChicago Cider SummitCiderCon2025
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    28 mins

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