This week on the podcast, Hallie and Katie dive into all things stay at home mom life. The mamas, who met at work over a decade ago, have both transitioned out of the office and into the home as the primary caretaker for their kiddos. The Emmy-winning entertainment journalists' days were once filled with fast deadlines, red carpets and bright lights, but now they manage a world full of dirty diapers, toddler tantrums and Ms. Rachel.

While both Hallie and Katie are grateful to be home with their littles and present for all the milestones along the way, they admit, it's the hardest job they've ever had, one that is way more demanding that your typical 9 to 5 employment. In a world full of sugar-coating and obsession with perfectionism, the ladies open up about all the things no one talks about like the isolation a woman can feel and the toll it can take on your mental health.

But the besties share a few of the tips and tricks they've learned along the way that have helped them manage the chaos and zero in on the gratitude.

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Oh man! Katie and Hallie are going through it in different ways. Dive into the latest episode that feels more like a therapy session as they talk about their marriages and their wedding vows and how they feel different these days -- in sickness and health really has a different feel to it these days.

The mamas also talk about a TikTok gone viral on how in motherhood we mourn who we once were. Do Hallie and Katie feel this way? They go deep into conversation about the changes and feelings they are both experiencing that we feel our listeners will be able to relate to.

It's an emotionally deep episode -- please join us and let us know how you are feeling these days too!

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This week on the podcast, Hallie and Katie dive into the universal experience of mom guilt. Katie explains that she feels the most guilty when she takes time for herself away from her kiddos, even when it's for the betterment of her mental health, like a workout class, or a chore for her family, like a trip to the grocery store. She also has lingering guilt over having a second baby so quickly after her first. The mom-of-two, who conceived her second child when she was just 5 months postpartum with her first, admits that she feels like she is often torn between the two and unable to provide them with the kind of attention she would like to.

Meanwhile, Hallie has mom guilt over her breastfeeding journey after she decided to start feeding her second-born formula at 7 months. The mama says she caught herself defending her choice to friends and family and had a realization that she hopes all moms can apply to their own motherhood journey. She also explains the guilt she feels traveling for work. While she knows she is providing for her family and is grateful for the gig, she suffers from wife guilt too, as her husband, Andrew, is left to juggle the kids and work at home.

The moms touch on how motherhood can alter certain friendships after Katie's iPhone took her on a trip down memory lane. And Hallie is left pondering pubic hair in motherhood after Vogue declared that the bush is back in 2025.

Hallie and Katie also take a moment to reflect on their recent trip to NYC to see the podcast featured on Amazon Music's billboard in Times Square. The mamas are still floating on cloud nine and can't wait to tell their girls about the experience one day.

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