You're listening to LCC alumni stories, a show dedicated to highlighting the amazing alumni of Lansing Community College. I'm Steve Robinson, President of LCC. And on each episode I have the awesome privilege of getting to know one of our many inspiring alum's and hearing about their experiences at, and since leaving LCC, LCC alumni community is expansive and far-reaching. They're an incredibly diverse group of people representative of all walks of life, working in hundreds of industries across the country. Lcc alumni stories shines a bright light on alumni who make a positive contribution to their community and showcases those who have overcome obstacles and barriers to achieve academic and personal success. These are their dynamic stories. My guest today is Graham Couch, a sports columnist at the Lansing State Journal. Graham, It is great to talk to you. It's great to be here. Thanks for having me. We'll look. I have been looking forward to having you on the show and I, I just have to start off by thanking you for writing kind of intro to the community piece for me in the journal when you are obviously taken a little break from sports. Thank you for writing that great piece about me. I got a lot of good feedback on it while you were an easy subject. So that's, that's really the key to those stories, right? Oh, how was it, how was I easy? Because if I asked a question, you gave a great answer. Oh, that's that's flattering. Thanks. Well, we're talking today on the podcast because you are an LCC alum. Tell me about your time here at LCC. What did you study? What were you working on? Yeah, it was 90, 97 through 99, a couple of years here. And I grew up in Lansing with The Lansing Sexton high school and was not, I wouldn't say I was an incredibly serious student until late in my high school career. Okay. And became one here really and very much so. And came here with the idea that I would transfer would do two years in transfer and that's what I did. I went to Columbia College, Chicago. But I came in looking for and got a very, I think, Rich, diverse experience with all sorts of philosophy course is public speaking courses, course freshman comp and all the stuff in left. But I left here with my academic confidence, which was a big thing. And because I hadn't always had that, some of which had been my fault. But took part in the student newspaper. The lookout, took part in the radio station, did play by play for the men's and women's basketball teams, which is which was a lot of fun. I still have those tapes someday. I'll go back and use guy, You're check tapes from doing like play-by-play here with the stars. Because I thought this was the key. I thought I was gonna go to play by play. And like this was this was the path I was going to need these I guess your portfolio? Yes. That's right. That's what I was thinking. And yet, the lookout was an amazing experience too, and really lead to a lot of, you know, I don't know if I I don't know if we'd be sitting here. We may have come across the same path eventually, but my initial plan was not to do, was not to get back into journalists might done in high school a little bit until I transferred. And I was working in the testing lab, the placement testing lab. And so I Little flyer that they needed a sports editor. Okay. And I had been reading a book at the time by Dan Patrick and Keith Oberman who were doing sports centers big show on ESPN. And they had, you know, one of the things they had this chapter on how to be a sports caster. And there were really adamant, not waste, don't waste time like you've at least be on your be on your student newspaper staff or be on the air if you want to be on the air. And so I just went and didn't wind up doing that because I had the testing lab lab job full-time. But wind up covering the teams and writing 5-6 stories, uh, an issue and that led to the radio deal. And so it was it was a really, a really good experience, I should say. I I mean, I...