4Ps in a Pod

By: Jeevan Grewal & JP Del Carmen
  • Summary

  • Trying to break into a Marketing career is tough. It’s a mix of awkward networking circles, unnoticed LinkedIn requests, and a sea of stereotypes (no, marketing is not just advertising!).

    To get a real look into the world of Marketing and the people who are shaping it - listen to 4Ps in a Pod. In every episode, Jeevs & JP (two CPG marketers) have a chat with a Canadian marketer from a different industry, company, and point in their career. Together, we’ll hear their coming-of-age story, get an unfiltered look at what they do, and gain valuable advice on how to carve out a successful Marketing career.

    This podcast is a must-listen for students looking for their first Marketing gig, seasoned vets looking for a change, and everyone in between.

    © 2025 4Ps in a Pod
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Episodes
  • Spotlight: The Canadian Marketing League | Jeffrey Yateman (GM Energy) & Navjit Dhillon (Kraft Heinz)
    Jan 14 2025

    In this mini-episode, we shine a spotlight on Canada’s largest marketing case competition! Over the past 17 years - the CML has launched countless careers through their program & this year will be no different. If you’re an undergrad or master’s student in Canada - you won’t want to miss your chance at competing for the ultimate prize of $20K (yes, you read that right 🤯) & CML glory. Not to mention the fact that you’ll make long-lasting connections & have a blast along the way.

    To help learn more - we chatted with Navjit Dhillon (former CML winner & Senior ABM at Kraft Heinz) & Jeffrey Yateman (former CML Co-Chair & Direct Sales Manager at GM Energy). You’re going to hear their thoughts on what makes the CML special & their insider tips on how to stand out in the competition.

    We hope you give this a listen, check out their website & get that first round application in (it’s due on January 24th⌛)!

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    23 mins
  • #16: "It's Time To Swing For The Fences" | Tanbir Grover (Pet Valu)
    Dec 16 2024

    🙌 In this episode - we had such a great time chatting with Tanbir Grover who is the Chief Marketing & Digital Officer at Pet Valu!

    Pet Valu is Canada’s leading retailer of pet food & pet-related supplies with over 800 locations across the country. For the past 50 years - they’ve been bringing joy to devoted pet lovers & their pets alike.

    Tanbir joined at what was a critical inflection point in Pet Valu’s journey. He joined during the midst of the pandemic - when they didn’t sell online, our relationships with pets were fundamentally changing, and the company was on the cusp of going public. Since that defining moment - he has helped them to steward their brand build efforts all the way to their digital capabilities.

    Prior to this role - he has a wealth of experience in the retail industry having worked at Lowe’s, Hudson’s Bay, and Sears.

    Amongst other things - we chatted with him about how Pet Valu continues to stand out in a crowded space, the biggest trends shaping the industry, a fateful call that changed his career trajectory, the value of an outsider's perspective, how you can connect the dots in hindsight & his dog Levi’s awesome Halloween costume (hint:🐕🦸‍♂️).

    More specifically, Tanbir shared his thoughts on the following questions:

    • How would you describe what you do to a stranger? (7:34)
    • What was your “Marketing Moment”? (8:50)
    • What did you take away most from those early experiences? (12:32)
    • What is your approach to making career decisions? (14:17)
    • Can you take us back to that defining moment where you decided to start at Pet Valu? (19:23)
    • How did you manage the steep learning curve? (24:16)
    • How was your experience trying to lead a cultural shift within the organization? (27:50)
    • Can you unpack Pet Valu’s priorities & its new brand platform? (30:46)
    • What are the trends that you’re seeing & how is your team capitalizing on them? (38:04)
    • How is your team structured? (42:50)
    • We put Tanbir in the hot seat! (47:47)


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    55 mins
  • #15: "The Best Season We've Ever Had" | Nicole Lee (NHL)
    Nov 14 2024

    🏒🏆 In this episode, we had an absolute blast chatting with Nicole Lee -the Senior Director of Integrated Marketing at the NHL.

    The league has been around for over 100 years & has gone through so many eras in that time. By all accounts - they’re in the midst of another golden era. Their revenue is at an all-time high which has been fueled by their captivating stars, intriguing storylines & new partnerships. Nicole's team works alongside their sponsors to help them mutually grow their businesses & the love for the sport. She joined 16 years ago & has helped the NHL grow the scale/impact of those partnerships.

    Prior to that - she has a fascinating story of growing within the US (completing her Masters in Ohio, working at Disney in Orlando & Anheuser-Busch in Virginia).

    Amongst other things - we chatted with her about the NHL’s record-shattering year, what winning partnerships look like, the importance of taking the long-view, the lost art of the handwritten note & whether the Leafs are finally going to win this year 🍾🤞.

    More specifically, Nicole shared her thoughts on the following questions:

    • How would you describe what you do to a complete stranger? (10:12)
    • What's the benefit of Partnership Marketing for the NHL? (10:49)
    • What was your "Marketing Moment"? (12:08)
    • As you've progressed through your career, has there been a north star that has driven your decision making? (16:28)
    • How did you think about the trade-offs between career choices? (17:18)
    • Can you walk us through your 16-year career at NHL? (21:07)
    • How has your view of sponsorship marketing evolved over time? (23:46)
    • How does it feel to have been part of the growth of the NHL through your role in partnership marketing? (28:55)
    • How do you cultivate strong relationships with your partners? (33:25)
    • Can you walk us through an example of one of your partnerships and how that has come to life? (35:08)
    • How is your team evaluated for success? (40:10)
    • How is the marketing team set up at the NHL? (42:04)
    • Do you have any cautionary advice for anyone who wants to enter a Sports Marketing career? (45:07)
    • We put Nicole in the hot seat! (47:12)
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    55 mins

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