Truth Actuality and the Limits of Thought
Twelve Conversations with David Bohm, Brockwood Park, UK and Gstaad, Switzerland, 1975
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- What is truth, and what is reality? 18 May 1975. Duration: 70 minutes.
- Seeing 'what is' is action. 24 May 1975. Duration: 122 minutes.
- Thought cannot bring about an insight. 31 May 1975. Duration: 81 minutes.
- The intelligence of love. 14 June 1975. Duration: 87 minutes.
- Attention implies that there is no centre. 22 June 1975. Duration: 126 minutes.
Consciousness, because it is in constant movement, has never found an energy which is not contradictory, which is not produced by desire and thought.
Can thought ever see its own movement and the futility of its own movement?
Attention implies that there is no centre.
Is there a perception, a seeing outside the space which is part of consciousness?
There are two human beings; one gets conditioned, and the other doesn't. Why? How has it happened the other doesn't get conditioned?
How does this perception, which is beyond attention, beyond awareness, beyond concentration come about?
What is truth, and what is reality?
Anything that thought thinks about or reacts upon or projects - that is reality. And that reality has nothing to do with truth.
The art of seeing is to place reality where it is and not move that in order to get truth. You can't get truth.
How am I to empty that consciousness and yet retain knowledge - otherwise I couldn't function - and reach a state which will comprehend reality?
If truth is something totally different from reality, then what place has action in daily life, in relation to truth and reality?
Seeing 'what is' is action.
What place has love in truth? When I separate you, in that separation love cannot exist.
How are you to convey the sense of truth to a student?
As long as I live in the field of reality, which has its own energy, that energy will not free me.
When the mind is empty, when the mind is nothing, not a thing, in that there is perception.
Is there thinking without the word?
The action brought about by thought into the investigation of an analysis is always incomplete.
Insight is complete. It is not fragmented, as thought is. So thought cannot bring about insight.
I must have an insight into conditioning, otherwise I can't dissolve it.
What takes place when I have an insight that the observer is the observed?
In nothingness there is complete security and stability.
Why has desire become such an extraordinarily important thing in life?
How does desire arise from perception?
Can I desire truth?
Is the energy of nothingness different from the energy of things?
Is that nothingness a hypothesis, a theory, a verbal structure, or truth?
In dying to the reality, only then there is nothingness.
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put me right to sleep
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I have discovered a group of women who refuse to be exploited, are immune to manipulation, and who never settle in the name of love. These ladies know what they want and take what they want by beating men at their own game. Utilizing the secrets exposed in this book, these women gain power, money, and status. Men call them gold diggers, women call them hos, but they call themselves winners. This is the book that society doesn't want you to listen to….
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I spent $24,000 in 4 months
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One day, Lori Gottlieb is a therapist who helps patients in her Los Angeles practice. The next, a crisis causes her world to come crashing down. Enter Wendell, the quirky but seasoned therapist in whose office she suddenly lands. With his balding head, cardigan, and khakis, he seems to have come straight from Therapist Central Casting. Yet he will turn out to be anything but.
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Meh. Glad I didn't pay for it.
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- Mohinder Kaplish
- 09-25-19
Mohinder Kaplish's best book!
For its best effects, read it 10 times and I bet you will dig it!
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- Alli
- 08-28-20
Incredible.
These two ponder into the unknowable together so well. If you are interested in truth, get this.
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- Howard K. Crampton, Jr.
- 06-28-19
You won't want it to end
Excellent dialogues. The recording can be a little difficult to comprehend at first but I was able to hear what they say pretty quick.
After listening, you might, as I have, find it hard to put this audio into truthful words. You'll just have to listen for yourself. A++
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- christian`
- 07-15-21
Inquiry at its finest
I’ve been a spiritual seeker for a few years now and have come across Krishnamurti talks here and now on YouTube. He was seemingly saying the same thing except as everyone else but I noticed he never referenced anyone although many great teachers have referenced him in their talks. He seemed to not mince words with what the current state of affairs was at the time while others played to the crowd. This sort of behavior got me curious enough to seek some dialogues online which suits him so much better then long sustained talks.
These series of talks between him and Bohm (which lol I thought was a disciple) are the most fascinating, mind opening discussions I’ve heard up to this point. Not only do you get to see the care and patience that krishnamurti rubs off on bohm but how bohm grows and more in the space that krishnamurti has carved out.
For the first time in my seeking I’m not looking for the next bit of information to fill a void of unfulfilled desire. I’m not asking for more, this was criminally cheap purchase and had me walking away in awe. It has fundamentally opened me up
Can’t recommend these talks enough. Check out the site, these are typically on sale. Yeah!
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