The Pope at War
The Secret History of Pius XII, Mussolini, and Hitler
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NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER •
“The most important book ever written about the Catholic Church and its conduct during World War II.”—Daniel Silva
“Kertzer brings all of his usual detective and narrative skills to [The Pope at War] . . . the most comprehensive account of the Vatican’s relations to the Nazi and fascist regimes before and during the war.”—The Washington Post
“Tolstoyan.”—Cynthia Ozick
Based on newly opened Vatican archives, a groundbreaking, explosive, and riveting book about Pope Pius XII and his actions during World War II, including how he responded to the Holocaust, by the Pulitzer Prize–winning author of The Pope and Mussolini
WINNER OF THE JULIA WARD HOWE AWARD • LONGLISTED FOR THE PEN/JACQUELINE BOGRAD WELD AWARD • A NEW YORKER BEST BOOK OF THE YEAR
When Pope Pius XII died in 1958, his papers were sealed in the Vatican Secret Archives, leaving unanswered questions about what he knew and did during World War II. Those questions have only grown and festered, making Pius XII one of the most controversial popes in Church history, especially now as the Vatican prepares to canonize him.
In 2020, Pius XII’s archives were finally opened, and David I. Kertzer—widely recognized as one of the world’s leading Vatican scholars—has been mining this new material ever since, revealing how the pope came to set aside moral leadership in order to preserve his church’s power.
Based on thousands of never-before-seen documents not only from the Vatican, but from archives in Italy, Germany, France, Britain, and the United States, The Pope at War paints a new, dramatic portrait of what the pope did and did not do as war enveloped the continent and as the Nazis began their systematic mass murder of Europe’s Jews. The book clears away the myths and sheer falsehoods surrounding the pope’s actions from 1939 to 1945, showing why the pope repeatedly bent to the wills of Hitler and Mussolini.
Just as Kertzer’s Pulitzer Prize–winning The Pope and Mussolini became the definitive book on Pope Pius XI and the Fascist regime, The Pope at War is destined to become the most influential account of his successor, Pius XII, and his relations with Mussolini and Hitler. Kertzer shows why no full understanding of the course of World War II is complete without knowledge of the dramatic, behind-the-scenes role played by the pope. “This remarkably researched book is replete with revelations that deserve the adjective ‘explosive,’” says Kevin Madigan, Winn Professor of Ecclesiastical History at Harvard University. “The Pope at War is a masterpiece.”
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In a definitive biography of the mythic general who refused to accept Nazi domination of France, Julian Jackson captures this titanic figure as never before. Drawing on unpublished letters, memoirs, and resources of the recently opened de Gaulle archive, he reveals how this volatile visionary put a broken France back at the center of world affairs.
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Extremely British approach to de Gaulle
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- 09-05-22
Interesting history
This is about Pope Pius XII during WW2. It’s based on a lot of new material. The Vatican had sealed Pius XII’s papers from this period until Pope Francis released them in 2020.
Pope Pius XI was very much against the racism and Anti Semitism of Hitler and Mussolini. He was prepared to release an encyclical saying so in 1939, but died just before delivering it. His top assistant was selected to be the new Pope and in honor of his boss took the name Pius XII. He did not however take his former boss’s stance against the Fascists.
Throughout WW2, Pius XII would never denounce Hitler or Mussolini or their actions even after it became known that Hitler was exterminating the Jews. The question is why? The book does not have a smoking gun, definitive answer. The reader is allowed to look at the actions of Pope Pius XII and come to his or her own conclusions. Did Pius XII agree with the Hitler? Doubtful. Was he afraid for his own safety? Maybe. Was he afraid for the fate of the Catholic Church? Possibly. Was he hoping by staying neutral to broker a peace at the end of the war and increase his own power as a result? That’s an option. In fact there are numerous potential reasons and the true reason probably consisted of several of them. The only thing that is certain is that Pius XII’s silence was noticeable to all and history has judged him harshly for it.
I picked this one because of my recent visit to the Vatican. WW2 buffs would probably find it more enjoyable than I did. For me it was a little more detail than I wanted, but I did learn a lot.
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- Michal
- 12-15-22
Important book
This was absolutely fantastic book. Last thoughts however were somewhat odd given the clear and detailed account
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- Fernando J. Trejo
- 06-25-22
Excelente
Un libro muy interesante. Permite entender las presiones políticas y los cuidados que debió tomar Pio XII para cuidar la religión católica aun a cambio de no tomar partido con ningún país en la segunda Guerra mundial.
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- A Reader
- 11-15-24
Meticulously documented
The narrative is a good deal faster-paced and more exciting then the average thriller. You hear the actual words of the protagonists, quoted from primary sources. The amount of research is staggering, the author’s command of the material unmatched. The author is scrupulously even-handed throughout - it was not a simple time! - and his “final thoughts” are fair and well-supported by the evidence of the primary sources he quotes. The pope cared very deeply about the church, its buildings and authority, and his actions and especially his inaction during the war must be seen in that light. He seems otherwise to have been entirely without a moral sense, viewing events of the war, including the mass murder of non-combatants (which he definitely knew about), entirely in tactical, diplomatic terms, at every turn asking only what he judged best for the church as an institution. Unfortunately, his judgment was relentlessly flawed. He was timid and easily manipulated, not least by the weaselly German ambassador Weizsacker (from a long line of weasels, still going strong in Germany), and altogether a tragically inadequate rather than evil man.
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- Rocco Priore
- 07-13-22
I didin't LOVE it
Excellent commentary on the Popes. Too bad some of them are not as kind as their religion purports them to be!
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- JHerring
- 12-10-23
Read this book before...
This is a well written book with more information recently released. Nothing shocking for those that have been paying attention for decades. A must read for all, especially catholics. Read or better yet, buy a physical copy before the Vatican buys the rights to this book and buries it alongside Penn and Teller's B.S. two episodes "Holier-than-thou" and "The Vatican".
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- Amazon Customer
- 02-21-23
Excellent book!
The book was well written and thoroughly researched. In addition to revealing new details on the church during WWII, it provides immersive details on the impact of the war on Italy and the world.
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- Christine
- 10-22-23
Captivating
I loved this book. It was so well written that it was entertaining. The subject was disturbing, but it was presented in a balanced way.
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- Glenn J Wojcik
- 04-28-24
Wolf in Sheeps clothing
At the end of The Godfather PT 1, during the baptism, the priest asks Michael, "Do you reject Satan," Michael "I do." Pius XII was the Vicar of the Church, the Rock, Petra, a beacon for the weak, and he did nothing. I was hoping to find clear evidence that he opposed evil. I didn't find Christ within him.
His silence condemns him and those who say, he did righteousness in secret, well that doesn't hold water in my opinion. It was a burning building and he kept silent.
He knew about the camps, he knew. I am surprised he didn't end up like Mussolini.
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- BARBARA SHAW GIFTS
- 06-30-22
A remarkable book. Incredibly important. Should be read by every Catholic and everyone
The material presented in the book is very uncomfortable but so important. Pope pious the 12th, is exposed on the basis of facts that have been hidden in the archives for 70 years. Silence was a misnomer for moral bankruptcy.
Thousands of lives could have been saved but for the silence of the Pope and church.
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