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The Ark Before Noah

Decoding the Story of the Flood

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The Ark Before Noah

De: Irving Finkel
Narrado por: Irving Finkel, Gareth Armstrong
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Since the Victorian period, it has been understood that the story of Noah, iconic in the Book of Genesis, and a central motif in Judaism, Christianity and Islam, derives from a much older story that existed centuries before in ancient Babylon. But the relationship between the Babylonian and biblical traditions was shrouded in mystery. Then, in 2009, Irving Finkel, a curator at the British Museum and a world authority on ancient Mesopotamia, found himself playing detective when a member of the public arrived at the museum with an intriguing cuneiform tablet from a family collection. Not only did the tablet reveal a new version of the Babylonian Flood Story; the ancient poet described the size and completely unexpected shape of the ark, and gave detailed boat building specifications. Decoding this ancient message wedge by cuneiform wedge, Dr. Finkel discovered where the Babylonians believed the ark came to rest and developed a new explanation of how the old story ultimately found its way into the Bible. In The Ark Before Noah, Dr. Finkel takes us on an adventurous voyage of discovery, opening the door to an enthralling world of ancient voices and new meanings.

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"[Finkel's] conclusions will send ripples into the world of creationism and among ark hunters." ( Guardian)
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Irving Finkel is an excellent reader. He makes his points in a logical, easy to understand way. He's also very funny. I don't doubt he is an expert Assyriologist and obviously an expert on Semitic languages. I would love to learn to read cuneiform just from listening to this book.

However, I disagree that the captive Jews in Babylon incorporated the Sumerian/Assyrian flood story into their Biblical one. Abram of Ur was a contemporary of Noah and Shem and could have gotten the story first hand. Captive Jews like Ezra, Nehemiah, and Daniel were obsessed with keeping and preserving the Law of Moses, which included the Noah's flood story.

Very enjoyable to listen to.

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Narrator's voice volume varies wildly, sometimes from word to word - one moment he is unintelligibly quiet, the next he is deafeningly loud. Director should have managed this much, much more closely.

Volume uneven

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One does has to like biblical study. I do not look at biblical study as a religion but as history. I did t remember who Irving Finkel was until my husband reminded me that we had seen some of his little bits on YouTube called Curators Corner. He’s quite a character and clearly very intelligent but then he is an expert in his field (cuneiform in ancient Mesopotamia at the British Museum. He also has such a great way of presenting things and when he finds something sillypuppy1 or outrageous he has this lovely subtitle way of letting you know his feelings. Love his voice. I listen to books at night and he has the perfect voice to fall asleep to but I always know exactly where I left off to go back to the story.

The telling of the story of the development of the Noah Ark story was fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. Again it is written for a certain audience. I am not a scholar but just interested in all kinds of things from history but particularly ancient cultures and how the Bible was written and the historical development of religious myths.

I never understood much about cuneiform but finding out it is some 4500 or so years old and was still being used in some places in the Middle East into the 1st century CE was startling info and led me to the online encyclopedia.

I must admit the first three chapters were quite technical and scholarly and the history and diversity of cuneiform and probably really needed a documentary to follow it. I’m guess I’ll look for that now! However, I think that the rest of the book is very clear in taking about the diversity of the language in Mesopotamia. But once it started on the Noah story, beginning of Chapter 4 it really moved smoothly. It really might have started in chapter 3 but I was burned out by the end of chapter 2. But I am not dinging the book for it.

Didn’t know what to expect but delightful history

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Frankly, I expected a dry scholarly tome. However, the author’s obvious love for his work comes across in his rather quirky, but lively, reading style. Admittedly it took me a little time to get used to his accent, but nobody could’ve read this book better or imbued it with more energy. After providing a certain amount of background on cuneiform and related research, he delves into several versions of the ark story, including the one in the Old Testament. The author’s reading is like listening to a favorite professor. Delightful moments of humor enliven the fascinating scholarly information. A wonderful book which I thoroughly enjoyed.

Lively and informative

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Interesting book with lots of excellent information. Will be pondering his deductions for a while. Enjoy.

Brilliant work

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I have been watching Irving Finkel for years on YouTube with the British museum and finally found all his books on audible, and I’m so grateful he’s the one reading! His tone in conveying the work and his understanding of the subject are unmatched. It feels like he’s the headmaster we all wished had been at our school.

Like the Dumbledore of Sumerian studies

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Irving Finkel here reads his on book on the Flood tradition, starting with the cuneiform sources. Finkel is one of the foremost scholars in cuneiform studies, and has a very delightful style in talking about the material. I found it an enchanting listen, helped by Finkel's melodious voice. Finkel shows how he thinks through the fragmentary evidence and manages to squeeze an amazing amount of information from them. Highly recommended.

Very insightful analysis

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Listening to the passionate and fascinating writings of Irving Finkel is a great pleasure. I’ve heard all his lectures and read anything he’s written on cuneiform.

This book is no exception. He is, in my opinion one of the most fascinating men on the planet.

I think most people will enjoy the book and perhaps catch the bug that sends you into obsession.

Brilliant and entertaining, as always!

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The author successfully combines "modern" detective stories from the 19th, 20th & 21st centuries, archeological, linguistic & literary; with an approachable guide to the history of written language (focusing on cunieform); and the evolution of biblical literature (focusing on the Noah story, but not only that). The writing & the narration, excellent. I was so sorry when the book was over, I wanted to hear more.

excellent, enlightening, entertaining

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We are all familiar with the story of Noah’s Ark. The world sins so God decides to punish the world with a huge flood that covers the world. Noah is the only righteous person and so God spares Noah and his family by instructing them to build an ark and take a bunch of animals to save them as well. There are some contradictions to the story for example in one instance god tells Noah to take a pair of animals on the ark. In another he is told to take 7 pairs of clean animals and a pair of unclean animals. Kind of strange if it all came from God. In fact, I did not but rather was based on an older tale, a Mesopotamian tale or myth.

In the Sumerian version of things Noah is called Utnapishtim and he was sort of like a king albeit a righteous one. The people on the planet are far too noisy so the gods decide wipe them out with a flood. Utnapishtim survives. This tale is included in the epic of Gilgamesh. In other Babylonian version and Assyrian versions, the hero is called Atrahasis. There are different versions of the story going around as is with all stories and they can change with each telling.

How did this tale with changed names enter itself into the Old Testament. Assuming that there was a huge flood or at least a flood that impacted that region it was well known to the Sumerians. Abraham the first Hebrew or Jew was from Mesopotamia. A big debate as to whether he was Aramean or Sumerian. He might have learned the flood story from his Sumerian upbringing.

Another theory is that when the Judeans were brought into exile, they were totally shell shocked by being conquered then bought to a more advanced culture. They were assimilated into the Babylonian culture. The Ancient Mesopotamians invented cuneiform writing and it was a special honor to be inducted into a scribal school. Many Judean were inducted. It was from there that they learned the flood myth. Since their mythology might have been lacking some elements, they borrowed and made it their own. There are other elements like the Assyrian king Sargon who was born of a priestess and then cast into the river in a small basket. Sound familiar? Remember Moses going on to Mount Sinai and getting the ten commandments well Hammurabi went up to a Mountain and received the law from the sun god Shamash.

There is a question as to what the water vessel used looked like. Looking at Mesopotamian society and how it is placed on the river it can be expected that they had to get around somewhat by boat and they had to experience periodic flooding. There are two types of craft. One is a round craft made of reed and bitumen and it is water proof. Some versions of the story have it as a craft with one level and another has it as a craft with multiple levels. The other version is a boat like structure that Noah used.

There has been some speculation as to where the ark landed. In the Bible we have been trained to think that the Ark landed on Mount Ararat. In fact the original legend says they landed in the mountain of Urartu. Uartu was a kingdom to the North of Mesopotamia. But there are other legends that place the mountain elsewhere. Assyrian legend which held sway briefly believed that the mountain was Mount Nizar which is in Assyrian territory and part of the Zagros Mountains. Islamic tradition and Nestorian tradition placed it on Mount judi Dar. It held sway for the longest but now everyone settle on Ararat.

Mesopotamian Origins of Hebrew Myth

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