In this episode of XYZ Philosophies from the Better Questions podcast, Kevin Hohe is joined by Alan Jordan, a former attorney turned mediator, who shares his journey of leaving traditional law to pursue a more meaningful and values-driven career in conflict resolution.

Alan opens up about the limitations of the billable-hour model, the flaws he sees in the modern legal system, and why he believes asking good questions matters more than having easy answers—both in law and in life. The conversation moves beyond the courtroom into deeper discussions on faith, doubt, vocation, and the role of community in spiritual growth.

Rooted in both personal experience and professional insight, this is a wide-ranging, thoughtful episode about choosing purpose over prestige, and curiosity over certainty.

In this episode, we explore:

• Why Alan left a traditional law career in search of something more fulfilling
• How mediation offers a more human-centered approach to conflict resolution
• The case against hourly billing—and why outcomes matter more than time
• The tension between institutional religion and lived experience
• How Alan’s faith continues to evolve through doubt and exploration
• Why curiosity is more spiritually valuable than rigid belief
• What it means to pursue vocation that aligns with meaning and service
• How heaven, peace, and contentment can be found in the present moment
• The challenge and power of having honest conversations across differences
• Why community, presence, and questioning are essential to spiritual growth

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