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  • Real Stories: How Work Transforms Refugee Lives
    Jul 18 2025

    Welcome to Voices of Resilience Season 3, brought to you by Na'amal, a non-profit and social enterprise dedicated to empowering forcibly displaced individuals through dignified remote work. In this episode, we delve into the exciting and sometimes challenging landscape of AI and Africa's digital future.

    In this episode, we are joined by Seid and Maria, two individuals whose lives have been reshaped through meaningful work after displacement. Co-hosted by Clay Lowe and Amber, this conversation goes beyond headlines and statistics to center the lived realities of refugee communities, reminding us of the humanity, resilience, and ambition often left out of mainstream narratives.

    About Our Guest:
    Seid
    is a refugee and digital worker currently based in East Africa. Originally displaced from his home country due to conflict, Seid rebuilt his life through digital skills training and remote work. Today, he supports others on similar journeys.


    Maria Vale is a mother, refugee, and skilled remote worker now thriving in Portugal. Her story is one of reinvention, from surviving displacement to building a career that gives her independence, confidence, and a renewed sense of purpose.


    Episode Highlights

    A Journey of Transformation

    • Seid and Maria share their personal journeys, from displacement to finding meaningful work
    • How initial uncertainty gave way to discovery, learning, and new possibilities
    • Their first digital jobs and the role they played in rebuilding their lives

    The Power of Dignified Work

    • Beyond income: how work restored confidence and redefined purpose
    • Shifting community perceptions: from being seen as a burden to becoming a role model
    • “Work made me feel human again.” Seid

    Barriers and Enablers

    • Legal and technological hurdles to accessing online work
    • The power of mentorship, training, and community support
    • What needs to change in policies and systems to open up work for more refugees

    Owning the Narrative

    • The importance of storytelling in shifting harmful stereotypes
    • Moments where their stories helped others see refugees differently
    • “When we speak for ourselves, we reclaim power.” Maria

    Words of Hope

    • Advice to displaced youth who feel stuck
    • What keeps them hopeful in the face of ongoing challenges
    • Their vision for a future where refugees are seen not as victims, but as contributors and leaders

    Discussion Topics

    • Refugee agency: Moving from charity to choice
    • Digital work: Creating borderless opportunities
    • Representation: The need for refugee voices in shaping policy and perception
    • Mental health and work: How purpose supports healing
    • Equity in access: Ensuring women and less connected communities are not left behind

    Connect with Us:

    • Na'amal Website: namal.org
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/naamal/posts/?feedView=all
    • Instagram: _naamal_
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  • Big Ideas for Big Problems: Addressing Connectivity
    Jul 11 2025

    Welcome to Voices of Resilience Season 3, brought to you by Na'amal, a non-profit and social enterprise dedicated to empowering forcibly displaced individuals through dignified remote work. In this episode, we delve into the exciting and sometimes challenging landscape of AI and Africa's digital future.

    In this episode, we explore one of the biggest barriers to digital inclusion: connectivity. Without access to infrastructure and the internet, displaced individuals are excluded from the very systems meant to empower them.


    Join host Clay Lowe and co-host Tessa Davis as they speak with two inspiring leaders who are tackling this issue head-on:

    • Mea Thompson, Co-Founder & CCO of Unconnected.org: A telecom expert and passionate advocate for digital inclusion, Mea is building global partnerships to connect refugees, students, and women with affordable digital tools and infrastructure.
    • Troy Etulain, Founder & CEO of EdgeCase: With over 25 years of experience spanning UNHCR, UNICEF, ITU, USAID, and the World Bank, Troy brings deep insights into policy, innovation, and public-private collaboration for refugee connectivity.

    Episode Highlights

    Why Connectivity Matters

    • We begin by unpacking the importance of digital access for refugees and displaced populations. What does digital exclusion actually look like on the ground, and what does it take to overcome it?

    Barriers to Access

    • From missing infrastructure to limited policy support, Mea and Troy dive into the systemic issues that block connectivity in camps and host communities. They also share their experiences working with local authorities and international bodies to bring internet access to the most underserved.

    What’s Working

    • We hear real-life examples of success, including Unconnected’s work with community entrepreneurs and EdgeCase’s affordable edge connectivity systems. Both guests explain how partnerships across private, public, and nonprofit sectors are central to long-term solutions.

    Big Ideas for Bold Change

    In the second half of the episode, the group tackles key questions:

    • How can we make connectivity meaningful, beyond just access?
    • What ethical concerns arise when bringing vulnerable communities online?
    • And if resources were no issue, what moonshot ideas would they launch to bridge the digital divide?

    Connect with Us:

    • Na'amal Website: namal.org
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/naamal/posts/?feedView=all
    • Instagram: _naamal_
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  • The Global Workforce Shift: Africa’s Role in the Future of Work
    Jul 4 2025
    Welcome to Voices of Resilience Season 3, brought to you by Na'amal, a non-profit and social enterprise dedicated to empowering forcibly displaced individuals through dignified remote work. In this episode, we delve into the exciting and sometimes challenging landscape of AI and Africa's digital future.In this compelling episode, we sit down with Sharmi Surianarain, Chief Impact Officer at Harambee, to explore why the future of work is not just in Africa, but is African. Sharmi shares her two-decade journey connecting young people to meaningful work across the continent and makes a powerful case for Africa's demographic dividend as a global solution.About Our Guest: Sharmi Surianarain is the Chief Impact Officer at Harambee, a youth employment accelerator operating in South Africa and Rwanda. Born in India and raised partly in Nigeria, Sharmi has lived across West, East, and South Africa, bringing a continental perspective to youth employment challenges. She previously worked at African Leadership Academy, where she founded Africa Careers Network. Sharmi also chairs Rwanda's Global Business Services Growth Initiative and serves as a part-time jazz singer.Episode HighlightsThe Demographic OpportunityAfrica is home to the world's youngest population and will be its largest workforce by 203012-15 million young people enter the African labor market annually, but fewer than 3 million find jobsThis represents both a challenge and the world's greatest untapped opportunityMaking the Business Case for AfricaCompanies come for cost competitiveness but stay for impact and meaningful storiesYoung Africans bring unique strengths: resilience, creativity, empathy, and digital nativityReal example: A young woman in Kigali seamlessly switching between French and English while helping elderly JetBlue customersRedefining Africa's Global PositionMoving from extractive relationships to partnerships "on our terms"Leveraging Africa's renewable energy potential and youthful workforceChallenging stereotypes through direct experience and authentic storytellingHarambee's ImpactSupports nearly 5 million young people in South Africa and 30,000+ in RwandaCreated 1.8 million work opportunities, with 8% being net new export-oriented jobsOperates a multi-channel, data-free support center with 100+ call center agentsInnovation in Adversity"Pessimism is a privilege" - African youth are optimistic by necessityExamples from Kenya's recent protests: young people translating tax legislation into local languages on TikTokRefugee success story: Young man from DRC who built schools in refugee campsThe AI ConversationCriticism of sensationalist "jobocalypse" narrativesAdvocating for AI as companion and partner, not threatAfrican youth's relationship with uncertainty as an advantage in adapting to technological changeRedesigning InstitutionsNeed for inter-generational learning in workplacesCall for political representation that reflects Africa's young demographicCreating "future-proof" institutions that accommodate youth potentialCultural RenaissanceAfrica's creative industries as major value driversNew Grammy category for Afrobeats signals global recognitionPop culture as a vehicle for changing perceptions of the continentDiscussion TopicsLabor Migration Reform: Creating dignified, mutually beneficial pathways for African workers globallyPolitical Representation: The need for leadership that reflects Africa's young populationMentorship Models: Embracing inter-generational learning and reverse mentoringTechnology Adoption: Positioning Africa as an AI-ready continent rather than a victim of technological changeStereotype Dismantling: Moving beyond narratives of war, famine, and disaster to showcase innovation and opportunityAbout Harambee: Harambee Youth Employment Accelerator operates as a labor market matching platform, connecting young people to work opportunities while breaking down barriers to employment. Based in South Africa and Rwanda, they've pioneered the concept of "impact sourcing" - demonstrating that hiring young Africans delivers both business value and social impact.Connect with Our GuestOrganization: Harambee Youth Employment AcceleratorMusic: Sharmi is also a jazz singer with albums available on streaming platformsFocus Areas: Youth employment, impact sourcing, labor migration, AI and future of workConnect with Us:Na'amal Website: namal.orgLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/naamal/posts/?feedView=all Instagram: _naamal_The future of work isn't just changing - it's African. Join us in reimagining what's possible when we recognize Africa's youth as the solution the world needs.
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  • AI and Africa's Digital Future
    Jun 27 2025

    Welcome to Voices of Resilience Season 3, brought to you by Na'amal, a non-profit and social enterprise dedicated to empowering forcibly displaced individuals through dignified remote work. In this episode, we delve into the exciting and sometimes challenging landscape of AI and Africa's digital future.

    We're thrilled to welcome Elvis, a renowned researcher and consultant specializing in the future of work in Sub-Saharan Africa. He's joined by our fantastic co-host, Lorraine, as they explore the transformative power of AI and its implications for employment, skill development, and cross-border collaboration.

    Episode Highlights

    • Na'amal's Impact: Discover how Na'amal has empowered over 1,500 refugees and underrepresented individuals through remote work training, mentorship, and digital employment. With the launch of the NAMAL Agency, more than 40 graduates have secured paid tech projects, proving that talent truly has no borders. Learn more at namal.org.
    • The Future of Work in Sub-Saharan Africa: Elvis shares his insights on why Sub-Saharan Africa, with its incredibly young demographic, is at the forefront of discussions about the changing world of work.
    • AI's Impact on Junior Jobs: A critical conversation unfolds around how AI is impacting entry-level positions, traditionally crucial for career development. Elvis shares findings from his research, noting that AI often helps novice workers the most in controlled experiments, yet companies are sometimes hiring fewer junior staff in favor of more experienced professionals who can effectively manage AI.
    • The Conundrum of AI and Employment: The discussion tackles the potential for AI to automate first-line support in customer experience roles, a sector that currently provides significant employment in Africa. The hope is that these companies can evolve and move up the value chain.
    • Learning and Developing with AI: Clay and Elvis discuss the shift from traditional learning to an AI-driven approach, where learners are in the "driver's seat," using AI as a tutor to address specific knowledge gaps. This approach allows for a focus on advanced skills and personalized learning experiences.
    • Managing AI for Enhanced Productivity: Learn why effectively managing AI is a crucial skill. The hosts emphasize that AI is a tool to enhance, not replace, human creativity and problem-solving, underscoring that the quality of input directly affects the quality of output.
    • Gender Disparities and AI Adoption: Lorraine raises important questions about gender disparities in accessing skills and jobs in the digital economy. Elvis shares anecdotal but hopeful observations from his workshops, where women often demonstrate strong capabilities and produce highly-rated projects once they overcome initial skepticism about AI.
    • Global Business Services (GBS) and its Role: The episode delves into the GBS sector (also known as BPO, ITO, CX, etc.) and its significance in knowledge transfer and job creation, particularly in regions like Africa. The discussion touches upon how AI might necessitate a shift in the GBS model towards higher-complexity tasks.
    • Policy and Protection in the Age of AI: The conversation wraps up with a look at the policies needed to protect individuals in an AI-driven world. Elvis advocates for a cautious, step-by-step approach to legislation, acknowledging the "known unknowns" and the need for rapid adaptation in a fast-moving technological landscape.
    • Opportunities in the Gaps: A powerful takeaway from the episode is the idea of "opportunity in the gaps" – leveraging AI to solve local and regional problems and create new entrepreneurial ventures that might fall outside the focus of larger corporations.

    Connect with Us:

    • Na'amal Website: namal.org
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/naamal/posts/?feedView=all
    • Instagram: _naamal_
    • Elvis's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elvismelia/
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  • Refugees, Africa and the Future of Work
    Jun 20 2025
    Welcome to Voices of Resilience Season 3, brought to you by Na'amal, a non-profit and social enterprise dedicated to empowering forcibly displaced individuals through dignified remote work. In this episode, we delve into the exciting and sometimes challenging landscape of AI and Africa's digital future.This episode of Voices of Resilience delves into the evolving landscape of work in Africa, particularly focusing on the role of digital transformation and the unique contributions of forcibly displaced people. The hosts and guests discuss the concept of "the future of work in Africa" – whether it's a distant concept or already a present reality, and explore the opportunities and challenges within this burgeoning digital economy.Key Themes:The Future of Work is Here (and in Africa):The notion that the "future of work" is not a distant concept but is already being lived, especially in Africa, driven by rapid technological advancements like AI.Africa's young population, entrepreneurial spirit, and drive to innovate are key factors.The idea of multiple "futures" of work, not just one, and the importance of a global perspective rather than an Africa-centric one.The critical role of digital technology and improved internet infrastructure in enabling new job opportunities.Nairobi as a Hub for Digital Work:Nairobi's palpable energy, entrepreneurial mindset, and strategic geographical position (East Africa, favorable time zone for Europe).Good internet infrastructure and a strong education system produce talented individuals.Challenges: Kenya's national image often doesn't reflect its potential, with media focusing on negative aspects, hindering business development.An Ecosystem Approach: Shift from financial inclusion research to focusing on livelihoods and job creation, particularly through tech-enabled companies. BFA Global's role in venture building and acceleration, recognizing the private sector as key to sustainable job creation. Fabian's journey to Kenya; Konexio's origin in France supporting refugee integration through digital skills, and its expansion to Africa to train refugees and connect them to online jobs.The importance of an "ecosystem strengthening program" where organizations collaborate, share knowledge, and build partnerships (e.g., NAMAL and JobTech Alliance's Community of Practice).Unique Characteristics of Refugees in the Digital Job Market:Dedication and Motivation: Eagerness to work and contribute to the host community's economic drive.Multilingualism: A significant asset, especially in regions with diverse refugee populations.Cost-Effectiveness: A realistic factor for companies seeking to outsource.Volume: Large populations in refugee camps offer a significant pool of potential talent.Challenges: Payment mechanisms, creating awareness about opportunities, and balancing opportunities with the host community's needs.Achieving Scale and the Role of AI:Upskilling at Scale: The need for a centralized database of skilled refugees.AI's Role:Augmentation/Co-pilot: AI can enhance human capacity, making tasks faster and more efficient, rather than replacing jobs entirely.Training & Quality Control: The importance of teaching individuals not only how to use AI tools but also how to critically evaluate and check the quality and accuracy of AI-generated content (addressing "hallucinations").Government Initiatives: Kenya is exploring integrating AI into primary and secondary education.Scaling through Secondary Education: A potential strategy to reach a large number of young people with existing foundational education.Advice for Thriving in the Digital Economy:Global Mindset: Think beyond local opportunities.Agency & Proactiveness: Don't wait for opportunities; seek them out and be willing to learn and experiment.Overcoming Fear: Embrace failure as a learning opportunity.Work Ethic: Take digital work seriously, be professional, and be prepared to work hard.Motivation: The driving force for success in a competitive global market.Connect with Us:NAMAL Website: namal.orgLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/naamal/posts/?feedView=all Instagram: _naamal_
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  • Advocating for Change: Labor Rights and the Challenges of Forcibly Displaced Workers
    Jan 30 2025

    In this compelling episode of Voices of Resilience, host Clay Lowe sits down with Daniela Alba, an advocacy and communications specialist at Jesuit Refugee Service in Rome. Daniela shares her powerful personal story as a Mestizo woman from Colombia who experienced forced displacement as a child and has since dedicated her career to fighting for the rights of forcibly displaced people worldwide.

    Together, they unpack the evolving landscape of labor rights in the digital economy, the increasing exploitation of vulnerable workers, and the systemic challenges facing forcibly displaced individuals. Daniela provides insight into the post-pandemic shift in labor policies, the lack of protection for climate migrants, and the grassroots advocacy efforts driving change.

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  • Transforming Work: From Traditional Gig Roles to Team Based Projects
    Jan 23 2025

    In this episode, host Clay Lowe speaks with Giselle Gonzalez, Founder and CEO of EqualReach, and Susan Achiech, Founder of Tech-Femme Algorithms and a full-stack developer from Kakuma refugee camp. Together, they explore how transitioning from traditional freelancing to team-based project work can create meaningful opportunities for displaced talent. Giselle shares how EqualReach connects skilled refugee talent with global businesses through streamlined processes, while Susan discusses her journey as a South Sudanese leading Tech-Femme Algorithms, a platform training refugees in tech skills.

    The two guests delve into the challenges refugees face in freelancing, including steep competition and limited visibility, and highlight how team-based models foster shared learning, collaboration, and better outcomes.

    Susan also reflects on her mentorship experience with Giselle through Na’amal, gaining critical skills in client management and confidence. The discussion also emphasizes the importance of building trust, addressing systemic barriers such as platform access and payment systems, and fostering collaboration across sectors to unlock the digital economy for marginalized communities.

    With actionable insights for businesses, displaced talent, and the broader ecosystem, this episode is a powerful reminder of the potential for resilience and transformation. Don’t miss Giselle’s and Susan’s inspiring takeaways: “Trust is our most valuable currency,” and “There is no shame in not knowing; that’s the only way you can learn.”




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  • Jobtech for Refugees: A New Approach to Inclusivity
    Jan 16 2025

    In this episode of Voices of Resilience, we explore the transformative potential of Jobtech in fostering inclusivity for refugees. Guests Brenda from the Jobtech Alliance and Simon from the African Youth Action Network, share their expertise, highlighting innovative approaches to reducing barriers, empowering displaced individuals, and integrating them into the digital economy. Key topics include scaling tech-enabled skilling platforms, bridging gaps in digital literacy and advanced training, and addressing systemic challenges like asset access and ecosystem fragmentation. They also discuss the importance of mentorship, mindset shifts, and collaboration between private and humanitarian sectors. Tune in to discover how job tech is reshaping the future of work for refugees and creating sustainable pathways to economic resilience.

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