In this episode of Vinyl Vibes, Jack talks with Peter De Jong, founding member of Heroes. This is the seventh episode in an eight-part Newcastle Vinyl Vibes series. Over the course of this series, Jack has spoken with a range of local rockers important to the Newcastle music story.

Pete started playing in bands during the late ‘60s, but his first professional band was Armageddon, which took shape in 1970. Armageddon initially played around Toronto, performing blues covers by the likes of The Kinks and John Mayall. The band would rise in popularity and in 1971, would enter the Newcastle heat of the Hoadley’s Battle of the Sounds, at the time the biggest music competition in Australia. The band played two original songs and won the Newcastle heat of the competition securing Armageddon as Newcastle's top group of the early ‘70s. Armageddon came to an end in 1975.

In 1976, Heroes was formed with Pete on lead guitar and co-lead vocals. For the first year of their existence, the band had a residency at the Clinkers Tavern in Belmont before starting to play at other Newcastle venues. The band began by playing covers of songs by 10cc and Thin Lizzy, but they also started writing original music. In 1978, the band's bass player at the time, Allan Cook, presented a song to the band called Star and the Slaughter. It was a country-pop sounding song at first, but after fellow Heroes member Mark Tinson worked on the song, it became the punchy rock track it is known as today. The song brought the band notoriety after Heroes played it as their encore at the Star Hotel riot gig in September 1979.

After their Star Hotel riot gig, Heroes were soon signed to Albert Productions by George Young and Harry Vanda. The band released their first single, Baby Got a Taste, in August 1980. The single reached number 2 locally in Newcastle and number 76 nationally on the Kent Music charts. Their self-titled album followed in October 1980, and their second single, The Star and the Slaughter, came out in January 1981. The band continued playing until they disbanded in 1982.

In 2015, Heroes released their second studio album, So Far. The album was made up of songs both written in the ‘80s for the second Alberts album that never happened, as well as newer songs penned by Peter and Mark Tinson. The band played their final gig at Lizottes in 2019 on the anniversary of the Star Riot, closing the page on one of Newcastle's greatest bands.

Jack phoned Pete to talk about his early musical memories, how Armageddon came to be, his memories of playing and winning the 1971 Newcastle heat of the Hoadley’s Battle of the Sounds, the formation of Heroes, the band's residency at the Clinkers Tavern, Pete's memories of the Star Hotel Riot, how the band was discovered by Harry Vanda and George Young, recording for Alberts, what it was like playing on Countdown, the disbandment of Heroes in 1982, and the band's 2015 album So Far.

"A whole bunch of things came together to make that song have a power that it was never really intended to have... but even the lyrics matched what was going on, you know? 'I want action, I want fighting in the streets, going to take this town by storm' – haha, it was almost like a narrative to what was going on outside, even though we weren’t aware of it." - Peter De Jong on the song Star and the Slaughter being played during the Star Hotel Riot

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In this episode of Vinyl Vibes, Jack talks with Rick Pointon, founder of Benny and The Jets. Last time Rick was on the show, in episode 2 of this Newcastle Vinyl Vibes special, he talked about his music work in the ‘60s. In this episode, he discusses his music work in the ‘70s with Benny and The Jets.

Prior to forming Benny and The Jets in 1973, Rick was in a local group called Keg. While in Keg, Rick had the idea of performing a 20-minute medley of rock and roll songs from the late ‘50s and early ‘60s. Toward the end of Keg, while at the Star Hotel watching Bob Hudson one day in 1973, Rick had the idea to form a band based around the rock and roll of the late ‘50s and early ‘60s. Rick aspired to launch this new band, Benny and The Jets, at The Star Hotel. This was no easy task at the time, as The Star was primarily a jazz pub. However, after much persistence, Rick convinced the publican, Don Graham, to let Benny and The Jets play a free night at the Star. This first performance was a success, and the band soon rose to prominence around Newcastle. Upon their first gig, the band became Australia's first rock and roll revival group.

In 1975, Rick contacted Copperfield Records in Sydney, and the band recorded its first single, a cover of Barry Mann’s We Put the Bomp (In the Bomp Bomp Bomp). For Benny and The Jets, the single became a number one hit on the local Newcastle charts and reached number 90 nationally on the Kent Music charts. This marked the beginning of a string of local hits for the group. In 1976, Benny and The Jets released their well-known album Hey Rock and Roll, which reached number one locally in Newcastle.

Although still popular, in May 1978, Benny and The Jets came to an end after Rick underwent an intensive throat operation. Rick has remained a fixture of the music scene in Newcastle and, more recently, has written a book called Hey Rock and Roll, which reflects on his time in music and the Newcastle music scene of the ‘60s and ‘70s.

Jack talked with Rick in the studio about his time in Keg, what inspired Keg to play a rock and roll medley, how Bob Hudson inspired Rick to form Benny and The Jets, how the band came to play The Star, the success the band had throughout the '70s, the recording of hits such as Hey Rock and Roll, the writing of songs such as JOK, why the band came to an end, and his book Hey Rock and Roll.

"He (Don Graham) didn't know who I was, so then he would say, 'Well, where have you been playing?' and I’d reply, 'We haven't been playing anywhere.' In the end, he said, 'Look, just keep in touch,' so I rang him back every second day, drove him crazy... I said, 'We'll do a free night for you.' Don said, 'Oh, okay, what about next Tuesday?'... Halfway through the night, it was jumping, so they got us back." – Rick Pointon on this episode of Vinyl Vibes, talking about Benny and The Jets playing The Star for the first time.

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In this episode of Vinyl Vibes, Jack talks with Mark Tinson in the fifth instalment of the Vinyl Vibes Newcastle series. This 8-part series talks with a range of local rockers important to the Newcastle music story.

Mark grew up in Maitland amidst the music of the ‘60s listening to the likes of the Rolling Stones and the Beatles. While still in High School, Mark would form his first professional band, Bluegrass, in 1968. Along with Bluegrass, Mark would enter Newcastle heat of the 1971 Hoadley’s Battle of the Sounds, at that time the biggest music contest in Australia. Although the band would loose the heat to fellow Newcastle band Armageddon, for Mark it would bring an important moment in his musical journey as he would meet Peter De Jong, a future long-time music collaborator. After seeing acts live such as The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin, Mark had the idea to form a group that could make records and also tour. This would lead to the formation of glam rock band, A Rabbit in 1973. At the Insistence of Ted Mulry, In 1975 the band would be joined on lead vocals by original AC/DC Dave Evans. Soon after this the band would be singed to CBS records and become known simply as Rabbit.

After recording their debut self titled album, Rabbit would moved from Newcastle to Sydney. Their first efforts in Sydney included recording their single Wild Fire, which saw the band gain some national recognition when the single reached 86 on the national Kent Music Charts. After recording this Wild Fire single, the band would record their second album, Too Much Rock 'n' Roll. The single and title track off the album, Too Much Rock 'n' Roll, would reach 64 on the national charts and was written by Mark.

During Ted Murly Gang's national 1976 Stepping Out tour, Mark would leave Rabbit and return to Newcastle. He would first join a jam band called Bandits before forming Heroes in the same year. Heroes would play constantly throughout Newcastle and would rise to national prominence following the 1979 Star Hotel Riot.

Following the Star Riot, Heroes would be signed to Alberts Productions and in August 1980 the band’s first single, Baby’s Had a Taste, would be released. The B-side to this debut Heroes single, Waiting for You, was a song written by Mark. The single would reach 76 on the Kent music charts. This single would be followed by a self tiled album in October 1980 and a second singe, The Star and The Slaughter in January 1981. After money troubles the band would come to an end in 1982. More recently, Mark has written a book called Too Much Rock and Roll, which covers his time in music.

In this episode Jack talks with Mark about his early musical influences, the experience of hearing an electric guitar for the first time, his first profession band Bluegrass, his memoires of playing the '71 Hoadleys Battle of The Sounds, the formation of A Rabbit, working with original AC/DC front man Dave Evans, the recording of Rabbit's first album, his memoires of playing on Countdown, the writing of Rabbit hits such as Too Much Rock and Roll, TMG's 1976 Stepping Out Tour, his time in The Bandits, the formation of Heroes, the early Heroes gigs, The Star Hotel Riot, the recording the band did with Alberts, his recent memoir and his recent music work.

"The infamous Star Hotel Riot occurred, that brought some attention to us from Alberts and they came up to see the band play which is kind of surreal when George Young and Harry Vanda sitting up the back of the room" - Mark Tinson on this episode of Vinyl Vibes talking about getting signed by Vanda and Young

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In this episode of Vinyl Vibes, Jack talks with Les Gully in the fourth instalment of an 8-part Vinyl Vibes Newcastle series. This series talks with a range of local rockers important to the Newcastle music story.

Les grew up in Toronto, joining his first band Yesterday's Orphans in the mid ‘60s. The band would play a few gigs throughout Les’ time in high school but would come to an end in 1968 after Les graduated. While still in high school, future Armageddon vocalist and guitarist Peter De Jong approached Les one lunchtime asking if he could play Happy Jack by The Who on the drums. Les obliged, and it impressed De Jong greatly. When Les' first band Yesterday's Orphans came to an end, De Jong and bassist Paul Matters were in a band called The Pak at the time. Their drummer had just left and so, possibly remembering Les’s drumming of Happy Jack, they asked Les to join the band. The band would go through name changes such as Frog Hollow and Gully Erosion before settling on Armageddon by 1970.

The first year of Armageddon's existence would see the band start to build a following around Newcastle. In 1971 The band would enter the Hoadley's Battle of the Sounds, at the time Australia's biggest music contest. The group would win the Newcastle heat of the contest with their two original songs, Song for Happy and Suite Blind Eye. The band went down to Sydney for the finals but did not make it to the end of the contest, with finalists Fraternity winning the '71 Hoadleys overall. Following their '71 Hoadleys Newcastle win, the group would become the most popular group around newcastle throughout the early '70s. Armageddon would come to an end in 1975, with Peter De Jong forming Heroes the year after and Paul Matters joining AC/DC for a short period. Les would keep Armageddon going in the form of Geddon, which would play locally throughout 1976.

In this episode Les talks with Jack in the studio about why he started playing drums, his early musical influences, his memoires of playing for the first time live in 1964, how he came to join Yesterdays Orphens, his memoires of recording and playing with Yesterdays Orphens, the formation of Armageddon, his memoires of playing Hoadleys Battle of the Sounds in '71 and '72, being Newcastle's top group of the early '70s, how Armageddon bassist Paul Matters went on to play in AC/DC, and the later days of the band when it became known as Geddon.

"He (Paul Matters) was in there (AC/DC) in 1975. You'll find in the books that he's not mentioned. That period is put down as George Young and for a long time nobody knew about it...people found out about me, AC/DC fan clubs in Scandinavia and Italy -here there and everywhere- and started writing me letters. Paul didn't want to talk to anybody but he has a twin sister so through her we got into contact with Paul and he was kind of persuaded to take phone calls, so he did some talking with these people. The people who keep the records of these things were convinced that Paul Matters had to be put in (AC/DCs history)"- Les Gully on this episode of Vinyl Vibes talking about Amageddon bassist Paul Matters who went on to play in AC/DC

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In this episode of Vinyl Vibes, Jack talks with Les Hall in the third instalment of an 8-part Vinyl Vibes Newcastle series. This series will talk with a range of local rockers important to the Newcastle music story.

Les grew up in Maitland, joining his first band, The Cavemen, when he was still in high school. After playing in his second Maitland band, The Influence of Cessal Roads, in 1968 Les would join Newcastle band The Velvet Underground. The Velvet Underground would go on to be very popular around Newcastle in the late ‘60s playing vanues such as The Bus Stop Disco. The band became known for their stage act which included lead singer Steve Phillipson lighting his bomber jacket on fire when the band would cover Jimi Hendrix’s Fire. In 1970 The Velvet Underground recorded its first and only single. It featured on its A-side a cover of Jefferson Airplane's Somebody to Love and on the B-side a cover of Love’s She Comes in Colors. Later in the same year, on suggestion by Stevie Wright, the band would be joined by future AC/DC member, Malcolm Young, on guitar. In 1972, The Velvet Underground, who briefly were called Pony, became the backing band for Ted Mulry. During 1972 Velvet Underground would disband and Ted Mulry Gang would form with Velvet members Les Hall and Herman Kovacs. Velvet member Malcolm Young would go off and form AC/DC in 1973. TMG would go on to be one of Australia's biggest bands of the '70s with songs such as "Jump In My Car" and "Darktown Strutters Ball". AC/DC would go on to become one of the biggest bands in the world. In this episode, Les talks about how this Newcastle band, The Velvet Underground, went on to be the predecessor to these two massive Aussie bands of the ‘70s.

Jack talked with Les live in the studio about his time in his first band The Cavemen, how he came to join The Velvet Underground, the Newcastle music scene in the '60s, the setlist the band played early on, the live gigs with Steve Phillipson, the recording of the bands first and only single, how Malcom Young came to join the band, memories of playing with Malcom Young, and how the band came to come to form into TMG.

"As we were walking out (of the Young residence), heard the noise coming from the bedroom and walked in and there was a big old wardrobe...Malcom slid one of the doors open and said 'that's just Angus'. He was in there playing with -he had an SG-he was playing along to Led Zeppelin on this little record player...We went to walk out and their father walked into the room and...we shook hands, his father pointed to the Wardrobe and said 'he's the one, he's the one'. - Les Hall on this episode of Vinyl Vibes talking about Angus Young

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Rick is best known for his time in the local 1970s band Benny and The Jets; however, in this episode, Rick and Jack discuss his musical work throughout the ‘60s. Rick joined his first band, The Mystics, in late 1963 during the instrumental music craze of the early ‘60s. By the time The Beatles stepped onto Aussie shores in 1964, Rick had joined another local group, The Mystery Men. Possibly Rick’s greatest success during the ‘60s was his time in The Second Thoughts. In July 1966, The Second Thoughts would record a single at Nat Kipner's St. Clare Studios in Hurstville. A few nights beforehand, in the same studio, Kipner had just recorded and produced the Bee Gees' breakthrough hit, Spicks and Specks. Rick and the rest of the band would be among the first people ever the hear this Bee Gees hit. The Second Thoughts would record three songs with Kipner in one session. Two of them, Run Back Home and The World Keeps Going Round, would be pressed onto a 45 single and become a number one hit in Newcastle for The Second Thoughts. However, the third song from that session, a cover of The Kinks' song Wonder Where My Baby Is Tonight, has never seen the light of day. At first Jack thought this recording was lost to time having never been released; however, Nat Kipner gave Rick a copy of the recording on cassette some time ago. Rick, at some point, had the song on the cassette transferred to CD and has dug out that CD to be played in this Vinyl Vibes episode. This song has never been heard anywhere since being recorded by Rick and The Second Thoughts in 1966.

After The Second Thoughts, Rick would form Butter Suite in 1969, the band which he would stay with for the remainder of the ‘60s. More recently, Rick has written a book called Hey Rock and Roll, which reflects on his time in music and the Newcastle music scene of the ‘60s and ‘70s.

In this episode Rick discusses with Jack his first guitar, the instrumental surf craze of the early '60s, how Rick came to join his first band The Mystics, The Beatles tour of Australia, seeing The Shadows live in 1965, the formation of The Others, how The Others became The Second Thoughts, recording with Nat Kipner, being one of the first people ever to hear Spicks and Specks, his time in Bitter Suite and his book Hey Rock And Roll.

"When we left the studio it was agreed by Nat that 'The World Keeps Going 'Round' would be the top side..'Wonder Where My Baby Is Tonight' would be the flip side and we wouldn't use 'Run Back Home' but when the record came out the record company had pressed it up differently...those things happened in those days, it was a bit slap dash." - Rick Pointon on this epsidoe of Vinyl Vibes talking about the recording of The Second Thoughts local number one single

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In this episode of Vinyl Vibes, Jack kicks off his 8-part Newcastle Vinyl Vibes series talking with Dannie Davidson, drummer of Tamam Shud. This series will talk with a range of local rockers important to the Newcastle music story.

Dannie’s first group was a local Newcastle band called The Strangers, which he helped form in Cooks Hill in 1962. With Dannie on drums, The Strangers would go on to be Newcastle’s top group of the early ‘60s. In 1964, The Strangers became the first Newcastle band to have a single released nationally when their single The Rip came out. The band would leave for Sydney in 1965 and become The Sunsets, where they would play more Beach Boys-type music. While in Sydney, they would meet filmmaker Paul Witzig, who would get the band to provide soundtrack music for his surf films. In 1967, the band’s music was changing yet again due to the influx of American sounds from the likes of The Doors and Jefferson Airplane, and so the band changed their name to Tamam Shud.

As with their days in The Sunsets, Paul Witzig got Tamam Shud to provide the soundtrack music for his surf movie Evolution. In return for their services for Witzig, the band was able to record a studio album. Tamam Shud would record their debut album, Evolution, in one session. The album would sell out its initial pressing of 10,000 copies within weeks; however, due to the master tape being erased, it would not see another pressing for many years to come. In early 1970, Tamam Shud would begin recording their second album, The Goolutionites and The Real People. Continuing their innovative ways, the album was environmentally themed, an unusual topic for a rock record in Australia at the time. Dannie left the Shud after the band's second album and throughout the 70s would go on to perform in bands such as Karvus Jute and Band of Light.

In this episode, Dannie discusses with Jack his early life in Newcastle and Kings Cross, seeing acts such as Buddy Rich live in the '50s, the formation of The Strangers, the instrumental craze of the early '60s, the recording of The Rip, how the band became The Sunsets, meeting Paul Witzig, the recording and success of Evolution, Tamam Shud live gigs of the late '60s, the band's second album, and what Dannie is up to today.

"We recorded The Rip, I think we did that... I think it was released in '64, but we actually recorded it in '63. It was going to be called Bombora, but The Atlantics came along, and we were filthy because we were surfers and they weren't!" - Dannie Davison on this Vinyl Vibes episode talking about the debut single from The 4 Strangers called The Rip.

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On this episode of Vinyl Vibes, Jack is joined by Geoff Bridgford, drummer of The Groove and The Bee Gees. Geoff got into music at an early age, surrounded by the sounds of rock and roll. He used to frequent Alan’s Music in Melbourne. One day at the store, one of the girls working there mentioned that a group called Steve and The Board were looking for a drummer. The band had a hit on the charts called "The Giggle-Eyed Goo" at the time, so Geoff went to see the group at the 10th Avenue Disco. He auditioned for the band on drums live at the gig, and as the audience loved his playing, he was recruited as the new drummer for Steve and The Board.

After a year of being in Steve and The Board, Geoff had a knock on the door from Garry Spry, who was putting together a band called The Groove. Geoff agreed to join, and the band would spend much of its first year rehearsing in Melbourne. By September 1967, the band’s first single, Simon Says, was released and became a top 20 hit. However, it would be the group’s second single, Soothe Me, which would become The Groove’s biggest hit. The Groove’s version of the song was largely based on the Sam and Dave version, which had come out the year before. For The Groove, it would reach number 10 in Australia.

After winning the Hoadley’s Battle of the Sounds in 1968, The Groove won a trip to the UK. After two years in the UK with minimal success, the band broke up, and Geoff joined Tin Tin in 1970. Tin Tin’s second album, Astral Taxi, would be produced by Maurice Gibb of the Bee Gees. Because of this, Geoff started to collaborate with Maurice on his unreleased solo album The Loner. At this time, the Bee Gees had broken up, but when Robin Gibb returned, the band decided to reform. With Geoff playing drums for both Maurice and Barry, they decided to take him on as the official Bee Gees drummer.

Lonely Days was the first song Geoff recorded with the Bee Gees. As a single, it would reach number 8 in Australia, number 1 in Canada, number 33 in the UK, and number 3 in the United States.

Trafalgar would be the first and only album where Geoff was featured as an official member of the Bee Gees. The first song recorded during the Trafalgar sessions was a song Barry Gibb wrote called How Can You Mend a Broken Heart. It would become the Bee Gees’ first number one hit in the United States. Before this moment, no Australian-born musician had ever been featured on a U.S. number one hit. Since the Gibb brothers were born in the UK, this makes Geoff the first Aussie to ever be featured on a U.S. number one hit. The song would reach number 2 in Australia.

Geoff left the Bee Gees in 1972 but has remained involved in music over the years. More recently, Geoff has focused on doing solo material. His latest standalone single came out in late 2021 on his Bandcamp. It’s called Recognise and was written about Indigenous rights. To find more of Geoff’s solo material, you can visit his Bandcamp and YouTube pages.

Jack phoned Geoff to talk about his early days in music, the impact that rock and roll had on him, how Geoff came to join Steve and The Board, his first time recording, how he came to join The Groove, the soul hits the band had such as Soothe Me, his memories of winning Hoadley’s Battle of the Sounds in 1968, The Groove’s time in the UK, his work with Maurice Gibb, how he came to join the Bee Gees, recording his first song with the Bee Gees, Lonely Days, the Bee Gees’ first U.S. number one hit How Can You Mend a Broken Heart, and his work since leaving the Bee Gees, including his recent single Recognise.

"To this day, I still remember Barry coming into the studio and saying, ‘I’ve got this really nice country song, do you want to play it down with me?’ and I said, ‘Sure, what’s it called?’ and he said, ‘It’s called How Can You Mend a Broken Heart.’"-Geoff Bridgford on this episode of Vinyl Vibes talking about recording How Can You Mend a Broken Heart with The Bee Gees

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