n the debut episode of Trying Not To Die, Navy SEAL and discipline king Jocko Willink drops in for a wildly unpredictable conversation about Jiu jitsu, drone warfare, modern masculinity, and his deep love for Black Sabbath.

We talk about why war is now content creation, what it takes to stay calm in chaos, and how Jocko got completely starstruck meeting Tony Iommi.

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Trying Not to Die is a bi-weekly video podcast hosted by Jack Osbourne and Ryan Drexler, where caffeine meets chaos and survival is the point. Expect unfiltered conversations, high-performance hot takes, and deep dives into aging, recovery, wellness, mental performance and everything we’re doing to cheat death (or at least slow it down).

From mad-scientist doctors and longevity junkies to artists, athletes, and off-beat thinkers, Jack and Ryan explore what it really takes to stay strong, sharp, and a little wild in your 20s, 30s, 40s, and beyond. This isn’t a self-help show, it’s a low-pressure hang with two curious minds, trying new things and asking the questions we all wonder but rarely say out loud. Powered by Cave Man Coffee.

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Episodes drop bi-weekly starting July 1st.

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