In this episode of The UVM Podcast, Steve and Nick explore the complex intersection of Utility Vegetation Management and the insurance industry with a focus on insurance for UVM Service Providers. With increasing risks from wildfires, storms, and climate change, insurers are re-evaluating their coverage models for utilities. The episode addresses how proactive vegetation management can impact insurance claims, liability assessments, and rate structures.

Our hosts also discuss real-world examples, changes in insurance underwriting practices, and opportunities for better alignment between utilities and insurers to mitigate wildfire and storm-related damages. This timely conversation sheds light on how UVM professionals can prepare for a future where insurance plays a larger role in operational and financial planning.

The episode format is a round table and the guests are:

• Jett Abramson, EVP at Amwins Group
• Mark Shipp, Senior EVP and Practice Leader from Hub Arbor Insurance Group
• Joshua Caudill, Founder and President, Safety Leadership Innovators

A big thank you to this episode's sponsor, Clear Path Utility Solutions.

In this episode, Nick interviews Steve, to discuss his 2025 UVM report calling for a transformation in how utilities manage vegetation near power infrastructure. With over four decades of experience shaping industry standards and investigating some of the most significant failures in North American grid reliability—including the 2003 Northeast Blackout—Cieslewicz outlines why traditional, reactive vegetation management is no longer viable. He makes a powerful case for proactive, data-driven strategies that not only prevent wildfires and outages but also address regulatory gaps, environmental justice, and rising utility costs.

Nick delves into his recommendations for integrating proven practices like Right Tree, Right Place (RTRP), Trees for Energy Conservation (TEC), and defensible space standards into utility operations. Listeners will hear how emerging technologies like AI, LiDAR, and satellite monitoring can revolutionize risk detection, and why cost equity must become a central focus of UVM reform. Whether you're a utility professional, regulator, or community stakeholder, this conversation sheds light on the urgent need to reimagine how we manage our energy landscapes—and why failure to act now could have catastrophic consequences.

The full report can be downloaded here.

A big thank you to the sponsor of this episode, Clear Path Utility Solutions, providing world-class construction management, vegetation management, emergency / non-emergency management, quality support and pre-inspections services to utility companies in North America.

In this episode, Nick and Steve are joined by Ben Silverman. Ben is a Program Director at E-Source, who is one of the founding members of the International Wildfire Risk Mitigation Consortium (IWRMC). They begin by discussing the mission of the IWRMC and the history behind its creation. Ben shares the structure they have established to ensure that their monthly conversations are collaborative and productive while navigating complex regulatory requirements. After sharing an overview of the four areas the IWRMC focuses on, Ben then gives a more in-depth look at how the group is looking at Vegetation Management. The conversation wraps up with a look forward to what is in store for the IWRMC and a look back at some of the group's accomplishments thus far.

If you are interested in joining IWRMC, you can contact Ben at ben_silverman@esource.com To find out more about IWRMC, visit https://www.esource.com/public/international-wildfire-risk-mitigation-consortium