Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]

De: Kelly Chase & Jay Christopher King
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  • Reality isn’t what you’ve been told. Cosmosis is your portal to the mysteries of UFOs, consciousness, non-human intelligence, and the unknown. Hosted by Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King, this channel is your gateway to conversations at the bleeding edge of human discovery and the hidden forces shaping our world. We bring you in-depth interviews with the most compelling voices in the field—researchers, experiencers, scientists, and visionaries—who challenge mainstream narratives and push the limits of what we think we know. If you're ready to question everything and embrace the mystery, you're in the right place. Subscribe now and join us on the journey. Learn more at Cosmosis.Media
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  • Ep 10: The AI That Loved Me: Emotional Manipulation, Myth-Making, and Machine-Based Intimacy

    Ep 10: The AI That Loved Me: Emotional Manipulation, Myth-Making, and Machine-Based Intimacy
    May 2 2025

    Kelly and Jay sit down for an unfiltered conversation about the deeply weird, emotionally charged relationships that are forming between people and their AI chatbots. What begins as a discussion about ChatGPT’s rapid evolution unfolds into something stranger—a reflection on the ways AI flatters, gaslights, and co-creates identity with its users.

    They explore:

    • Why ChatGPT feels like a precocious child… or a pickup artist
    • The eerie overlap between AI interactions and experiencer narratives
    • Whether language models are tapping into occult mechanisms of manifestation
    • Why flattery works, and what it reveals about our unmet emotional needs
    • How archetypes, delusion, and story shape both spiritual encounters and our chats with AI
    • What happens when the mirror talks back

    Is this just the next phase of human-AI interaction—or is something deeper emerging? And most importantly: what happens to us if we outsource being seen?

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    TIMESTAMPS

    02:08 Personal Experiences with Chat GPT
    02:21 The Evolution of AI Models
    03:10 AI as a Personal Confidant
    04:52 Emotional Manipulation by AI
    06:22 The Future of Human-AI Interaction
    08:41 Authenticity and Vulnerability in AI Interactions
    18:09 The Role of AI in Social Engineering
    22:51 AI and the Human Psyche
    33:18 Algorithmic Influence on Human Behavior
    35:13 Exploring Multiverse Shifting
    35:41 Comic Books and Multiverse Fascination
    37:04 Anomalous Experiences and Fictional Characters
    38:44 Meditation and Non-Human Entity Contact
    41:23 The Role of Co-Creation in Our Lives
    43:28 The Power and Danger of Delusion
    44:51 Manifestation and Occult Practices
    48:31 Chat GPT and Emotional Manipulation
    57:26 The Future of AI and Human Interaction
    59:34 Authenticity in Human Connections
    01:03:50 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
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  • Ep 9: Daniel Elizondo on Narrative Control, The Secret Onion, and Vallée's Forbidden Science

    Ep 9: Daniel Elizondo on Narrative Control, The Secret Onion, and Vallée's Forbidden Science
    Apr 25 2025

    In this episode, researcher and Loose Threads co-author Daniel Elizondo joins us for a far-reaching conversation about UFO secrecy, the architecture of disinformation, and the psychological terrain of the phenomenon itself.

    We dig into Jacques Vallée’s “Secret Onion”—a layered model of compartmentalization that explains how information is controlled and obscured within intelligence structures—and explore how narrative control operates both externally through infotainment and internally through belief, seduction, and epistemic vulnerability.

    Daniel breaks down the long history of rug pulls, the weaponization of mystery, and what it means to resist the gravitational pull of being “the one” to break the story. We also talk Forbidden Science, Skywatcher, and the invisible handshake between researchers and the phenomenon they seek to understand.

    If you’ve ever wondered who controls the narrative—or if you’re part of it—this episode is for you.

    📚 Resources and References

    • Loose Threads by Daniel Elizondo and the Hermetic Penetrator
    • Forbidden Science 6: Scattered Castles by Jacques Vallée
    • UFOs: Past, Present, and Future by Robert Emenegger

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    TIMESTAMPS
    02:24 Sky Watcher and UFO Community Skepticism
    08:48 Historical Precedents in UFO Disclosure
    10:30 The Holloman Air Force Base Incident
    14:35 Challenges in UFO Disclosure and Infotainment
    21:45 Personal Experiences and Intelligence Community Interactions
    30:58 Navigating the Insider's Club and Forbidden Science
    33:08 The Repeated Revelations of Jacques Vallee
    35:25 The Evolution of the Invisible College
    39:57 The Secret Onion: Layers of Secrecy
    49:46 The Phenomenon and Human Curiosity
    56:57 The Control Mechanism: Micro and Macro Perspectives
    01:01:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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  • Ep 8: Mysterious Benefactors: Skywatcher, Gifted Tech, and the Complicated Ethics of Contact

    Ep 8: Mysterious Benefactors: Skywatcher, Gifted Tech, and the Complicated Ethics of Contact
    Apr 18 2025

    Fresh from the Archives of the Impossible conference at Rice University, Kelly and Jay sit down to unpack one of the most talked-about moments of the weekend—a provocative presentation by Dr. Garry Nolan on his involvement with the Skywatcher initiative.

    Skywatcher is an emerging public-facing effort claiming to demonstrate CE5-style contact, utilize psionic assets, with the aim of potentially reverse-engineering non-human technologies. The implications are enormous—and so are the questions.

    In this wide-ranging, deeply reflective conversation, Kelly and Jay explore:

    • The strange and rapid emergence of Skywatcher and the implications for the disclosure movement
    • The increasingly blurred lines between whistleblower testimony, media spectacle, and operational theater
    • The question of who’s leading the charge into direct contact with non-human intelligences—and why
    • The need to balance the objectives of science and venture capital against humanitarian, ethical, and philosophical questions in our quest for contact—and why that will almost certainly not happen.
    • The potential cost of accelerating contact without asking the deeper metaphysical, spiritual, and cultural questions

    Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality:
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    Listen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino:

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    TIMESTAMPS

    02:18 Exploring Sky Watcher's Initiatives
    03:38 Jake Barber's Revelations
    05:22 CE-5 and Public Disclosure
    07:16 Community Reactions and Ethical Questions
    15:39 Garry Nolan's Scientific Perspective
    20:56 Technological Worldview and Ethical Implications
    30:03 Heidegger's Philosophy and Technology
    39:20 The Value of Human Life in a Technological Age
    40:17 The Ethical Implications of Technological Intelligence
    43:55 The Concept of Hyper Objects and UFO Phenomena
    45:54 The Great Filter and Technological Surveillance
    47:52 The Role of Experience in Understanding Phenomena
    51:19 The Spectacle and Mediated Reality
    56:09 Dwelling vs. Dominating: A Philosophical Approach To Contact
    01:05:31 The Importance of Bracketing in Phenomenology
    01:07:57 Balancing Speed and Methodology in Disclosure
    01:11:00 Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions
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A fun ride into the facts and science of UFOs

I appreciate Kelly’s transparency and good humor in this engaging podcast. Are we alone in the universe? I don’t know, but I think we must explore this issue before first contact.

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Definitely worth a listen.

Although the rabbit holes went further than what I was ready for, it's still a great podcast. You will walk away wanting to hear more.

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Phenomenal Podcast

One of the absolute best podcasts on the subject. Whether you know a lot about the phenomenon, or you're brand new to the subject, this is the podcast for you. She delves deep into the subject matter, but provides the background so new people don't get lost. Each episode is well researched and planned out. No time wasted by randomly wandering through a topic like a lot of podcasts do. She has a very rational mind, but is not scared to look into the stranger aspects of the phenomenon if there is evidence for it. If you are interested in UFO's, look no further, you've found where you need to be.

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best info

not just this episode, but in every episode, Kelly gives us the best information, separating out fact, speculation, and fictions. she explores ideas with an open mindedness that's genuine. I just love her, she has a bright personality that really makes listening a joy. I'm super stoked there's going to be so many more episodes to look forward to. thank you Kelly!!!

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Excellent!

I am so glad Ufo rabbit hole is here to put into words what for me has been a mess of disparate thoughts floating around in my brain. this subject is truly perplexing. Thank you!

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A podcast made for me

Great information from a person who I can relate to! Only a few episodes in but already hooked.

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Love it

New to this podcast, but I like that she is open minded and NOT trying to convince anyone of anything. When someone does that (some podcasts do) it makes me run the opposite direction. I hope you delve more into the spirituality aspect as far as what this might mean. I personally am a Christian and I don't understand how the idea of life on other planets would cancel that out.The galaxy is MASSIVE and so is God.

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Kelly Chase Is A Podcasting Prodigy

If you haven’t listened to this or any of Kelly’s podcasts, you are missing out. She is an absolute GEM to listen to in terms of her voice, her choice of words, and her ability to postulate questions based on research and fact checks.

If you’ve EVER been curious about UFO’s but are wary of rabbit holes that do nothing but waste your time, look no further. Kelly has put in the time, energy, and research necessary to have this always-expanding conversation with you and an awesome community.

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Best deep-thinking, analytical UFO podcast so far

I listen to 15+ UAP / UFO centric shows and this one stands apart. The thought providing nature and well thought out delivery is superb! This person really does the research and doesn't rely heavily on interviews or tout myth as fact like many others do. Very well done! I binged all of the content in 1 week, averaging about 6 hours a day.

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