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The Symbolic World

The Symbolic World

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 Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.Copyright Jonathan Pageau Ciencias Sociales Espiritualidad
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  • 399 - John Vervaeke - What Is Spirit?

    399 - John Vervaeke - What Is Spirit?
    Jun 24 2025
    What is spirit? This was one of my most meaningful conversations with John Vervaeke yet. As we prepare for the Midwestuary 2025 conference in Chicago, we explore how beings come into existence, the mystery of unity and multiplicity, and what’s really going on with AI, angels, and the spirit of community. John shares some powerful personal transformations as well. I hope you enjoy this deep dive into spirit, ontology, and meaning.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/hqmSW3SgzHs

    Register for the 2025 Midwestuary Conference in Chicago, August 22-24: https://www.midwestuary.com/

    NEW COURSE: Scripture: The Key to Reality, presented by Seraphim Hamilton
    This course is designed to help students appreciate the unique role the Bible plays in helping us step into the world as it truly is: a symbolic revelation of the Infinite God. Scripture is symbolic because it is a revelation of Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ is the Archetype of the World. In a way, then, Scripture enfolds within itself the totality of the world, guiding its hearers to see an icon of Christ in each of God’s creatures: from trees to beasts to priests.
    - Live classes are on Tuesday at 2 - 4 pm Eastern Time, starting June 10th through July 22nd, 2025
    - Class Length: 5 sessions, 10 hours total
    - Cost: 120 USD (108 USD for Involved patrons)
    - Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/scripture-the-key-to-reality

    - Get early access to Rapunzel and the Evil Witch: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/rapunzel-and-the-evil-witch
    - Symbolism Masterclass course by Jonathan Pageau: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/symbolism-masterclass
    - John Vervaeke's course on the Symbolic World, The Cognitive Science of Ritual: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/the-cognitive-science-of-ritual

    00:00 - Intro by Jonathan
    01:25 - Intro music
    01:50 - Midwestuary conference details
    03:42 - What is Spirit?
    05:21 - John's response
    08:22 - Fellowship
    11:00 - Jonathan's response
    13:34 - Why it's hard to think about unity and multiplicity
    16:35 - Dualism in spirit
    18:32 - Modern false dichotomies
    24:19 - Jonathan: Spirit outside of minds?
    30:57 - Are there non-psychological spirits?
    33:42 - Gathered in man
    35:55 - Reduction can go both ways
    37:35 - The seat of self-consciousness
    42:01 - A human centered view
    43:36 - John: The standard of realness
    49:30 - An embodied world for everyone
    56:17 - Porosity between science and myth
    01:00:39 - Breath
    01:02:05 - A post-Kantian vision
    01:05:52 - Exampting and group identity
    01:10:40 - Liturgy and team spirit
    01:17:48 - Are spirits just psychological?
    01:20:26 - Prophesy
    01:27:43 - How do we use technology?
    01:34:01 - AI

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    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    1 h y 46 m
  • 398 - The Time for Orthodox Art is NOW

    398 - The Time for Orthodox Art is NOW
    Jun 11 2025
    In this talk at the Orthodox Arts Festival of 2025, I share my vision for a renewal of Orthodox Christian art rooted in meaningful participation and true celebration. We are living through the collapse of modern aesthetics—art has become propaganda, entertainment, and distraction. But this cultural decomposition presents an opportunity for something truly transformative.

    Orthodox art offers a profound alternative: not art as consumption or rebellion, but as participation, celebration, and enlightenment. Drawing on my work in children's literature, icon carving, and popular storytelling, I explore how we can reintegrate beauty, memory, and the sacred into every level of artistic creation—from liturgy to fairy tales.

    If you're an artist, a parent, or simply someone longing for a more meaningful creative world, I invite you to join me in rediscovering what art is really for—and how it can lead us back to God.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/WkQ1PP421nM
    🕯️ Discover our books, courses, and more at http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    📖 Get early access to Rapunzel and the Evil Witch: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/rapunzel-and-the-evil-witch

    NEW COURSE: Scripture: The Key to Reality, presented by Seraphim Hamilton
    This course is designed to help students appreciate the unique role the Bible plays in helping us step into the world as it truly is: a symbolic revelation of the Infinite God. Scripture is symbolic because it is a revelation of Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ is the Archetype of the World. In a way, then, Scripture enfolds within itself the totality of the world, guiding its hearers to see an icon of Christ in each of God’s creatures: from trees to beasts to priests.
    - Live classes are on Tuesday at 2 - 4 pm Eastern Time, starting June 10th through July 15th, 2025
    - Class Length: 5 sessions, 10 hours total
    - Cost: 120 USD (108 USD for Involved patrons)
    - Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/scripture-the-key-to-reality

    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau
    🔒 BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    1 h y 12 m
  • 397 - Nicholas Reeves - What Is Music?

    397 - Nicholas Reeves - What Is Music?
    May 31 2025
    In this conversation, I sit down with composer and church musician Nicholas Reeves to explore one of the great mysteries: music. Why does music move us so deeply? How does it reflect symbolic patterns in reality? We discuss the ancient and modern roles of music—from sacred liturgies to EDM dance floors—and ask whether the liturgy might be the ultimate artwork. We also dive into the contrasts between order and chaos in sound, the compression of human experience, and the sacred role of communal participation in worship. This discussion really opened new paths for me—I hope it does the same for you.
    Nicholas’s work can be found at: https://www.nicholasreevesmusic.com
    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/26ORdueGcIo

    NEW COURSE: Scripture: The Key to Reality, presented by Seraphim Hamilton
    This course is designed to help students appreciate the unique role the Bible plays in helping us step into the world as it truly is: a symbolic revelation of the Infinite God. Scripture is symbolic because it is a revelation of Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ is the Archetype of the World. In a way, then, Scripture enfolds within itself the totality of the world, guiding its hearers to see an icon of Christ in each of God’s creatures: from trees to beasts to priests.
    🗓 Live classes are on Tuesday at 2 - 4 pm Eastern Time, starting June 10th through July 15th, 2025
    ⏰ Class Length: 5 sessions, 10 hours total
    💰 Register for Seraphim Hamilton's course before the end of May to get 15% off when you use the code EARLYSCRIP1 at checkout.
    💰 Cost: 120 USD (102 USD with the discount)
    👉 Register Today: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/scripture-the-key-to-reality

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    01:29 - Intro music
    01:55 - Introduction
    02:50 - Understanding ourselves through music
    10:22 - The human voice
    18:56 - Rhythm
    21:11 - Dance and what music is
    24:40 - Variety and sameness
    32:08 - Reinventing yourself
    35:21 - Church music
    43:57 - Continuity
    46:56 - Moments in liturgy
    49:30 - Music in America
    54:54 - The complete work of art
    59:14 - Making pop culture more participative

    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
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    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    1 h y 5 m
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excellent work into the meanings of sign and thing signified. very worthwhile in trying to see the world as it is

symbolism happens

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I was first introduced to Jonathan Pageau thru Jordan Peterson's Exodus series. Excellent presentation

Astonishing insights!

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Gives better insight on how to propperly interpret reality. Thank you for breaking down these difficult topics.

Profound

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