Today’s episode is a big one. We’re joined by Jaimie Fuller — Chairman and co-founder of eo, the company behind eo SwimBETTER, the wearable that’s quietly but rapidly changing how elite swimmers train. If you follow the tech side of the sport, you’ve heard the buzz: real data, real-time feedback, real results. But this conversation isn’t just about gadgets and gear. It’s about values. Fuller and eo have launched the Integrity Wall campaign, taking dead aim at the Enhanced Games. It’s a bold stance in a sport that, frankly, has a complicated history talking about clean performance. Fuller tells us why he felt compelled to draw a line in the sand, and why now is the time for swimming to take a clear position. We also get into the data revolution — how athletes like Pan Zhanle, Paige Madden, and Kyle Chalmers are showing what’s possible when you blend tech, technique, and transparency. Fuller opens up on how eo’s AI-driven tools are reshaping the athlete-coach dynamic, unlocking gains without crossing lines. And — hot off the press — we break down Swimming’s Moneyball, a new documentary from eo that drops today. It’s a fresh look at how data is redefining what it means to be fast in the water. If you care about the future of swimming, clean sport, or what happens when tech meets talent, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.

Editor note: Jaimie Fuller does state in this podcast interview that the Enhance Games is promoting pharmaceutical sales. We did review the Enhanced Games website, and (as of the day of this report), the homepage of the Enhanced Games website has a button in the upper righthand corner GET ENHANCED. When you click that button you are taken to enhanced performance products. TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy) is listed with a dollar amount to buy.

After 4+ decades as head coach of the Nashville Aquatic Club, John Morse is retiring at the end of the month. Under Morse's leadership, NAC has produced over 65 Olympic Trials qualifiers, won over 40 LSC Championships, and earned 15 Gold Medal Club awards. Most recently, the club helped guide the swim careers of Olympians and NCAA icons Alex and Gretchen Walsh. SwimSwam sat down with John to discuss his long tenure in Nashville and the lessons he learned along the way. Young and old swim coaches alike, you won't want to miss this conversation.

Dutch backstroker Kira Tousaint recently announced her retirement from competitive swimming. She ended her career as a 3x Olympian, 11x European Champion, and Dutch record-holder in the 50 and 100 back (LCM) as well as the 50, 100, and 200 back (SCM). She was also an NCAA All-American for the University of Tennessee, where she competed from 2015-2017.

Today on the SwimSwam podcast is a man who doesn’t just run a program—he builds an ecosystem. We’re joined by Bill Dorenkott, Ohio State’s Director of Swimming and Diving. Bill’s teams have quietly—and not so quietly—become one of the most consistent and innovative forces in collegiate swimming. We’re talking about a program that, in summer 2025 alone, qualified 16 athletes for U.S. Nationals, notched 24 second swims, and put 4 athletes on U.S. National Teams. Charlie Clarke’s heading to Worlds in open water. Matthew Klinge, Mila Nikanorov, and Daniel Baltes? Off to represent at the World University Games. And let’s not forget—Daniel Baltes had never even swum a long course meet before coming to Columbus. But this conversation isn’t just about results. It’s about how they’re doing it. Bill shares his “gradually, gradually, then suddenly” philosophy, how Columbus has become a magnet for young talent, and how their burgeoning pro and post-grad group is positioning Ohio State as a key player on the road to LA 2028.

Sean Kao was a swimmer at Arizona State, where he earned his bachelor's and master's degrees in exercise science. In 2019, he started Aquatic Sports Performance out of his parents' garage in hopes of being able to help athletes with their out-of-water training. Over the last 6 years, it has developed into helping over 150 athletes in and out of the water reach their potential. Last month, one of ASP's athletes, Santo Condorelli, qualified for the US World Championship team in the 50 free. Sean discusses his humble beginnings, lifelong learning mentality, and his journey in helping Santo get to Singapore.

This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we are discussing World Trials for the USA, Australia, and Canada.